From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Nov 12 04:41:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2113C3CBDB for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 04:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x234.google.com (mail-ua0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98BCE1D8C; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 04:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x234.google.com with SMTP id 12so28236996uas.2; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:41:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=6IzjKEeAlqo0zyo0oBInybmQnss8GrLGqUxh5q3ZPok=; b=J/cqqkF6QETfWq7ATJx9oiVP/IDT32tDCNZbDHbDIU0hhVEb0MlBlhlkfjAR+zUItI KabU646vApMc3V+/vpFN1NCem79JyUcORBZS6gvqVhE0M2Wi0ELo30MhL4r5aAory/P9 UHU3RfDMx2s5PnC8im1/xmBgVjlU4FB03rQD7Fp5Z81dDY1EobMnG4qgxxE4FrAeftMu u3mP/4+dKFMPsj962VK5iZUOsw/zTO9kIpUj1UA4grCG6mFjzt2WMcZdOIz8t6BTl67L PIjrR7zUnqVUOEYM8PuTZRk+zQRfHrkLZjGVqtk8WRwfCrDUns7dzqBz8S8uji6U18BE XLSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6IzjKEeAlqo0zyo0oBInybmQnss8GrLGqUxh5q3ZPok=; b=eCD7XqjWbv0yajYupz9H9CzDqdx4FYLZP+GvtCDL0/0WRAnl9ruz1m7fcNdl5taDj3 UOp4nI3xdJvvcgHi46oWD+yiHnDzBjrz6aIQWJshJIUkbIR8zudVN7F6KWvb9nkiMzxz bHPGRwu2+8gVlmHArHFSeVrSo46q96kHSnvAh79yYEWA2h/V3avKY+rfy5jhR/drsPkJ Ym+SEM2fTxtATI5uuL8iU+jipKq/zFdpK17kAl9pjOyHu2y4QYKRrGWtxiNCXimFzqUs +BTBU7wQ5cOuaycEOIf6GdQrAxDboIqCNPCtP+vjdhIoLN6RcUVIsRO3ll1XvklTOuE/ V4BA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvdMkcYU9ttk3H8qatw44w5fzMDih0GOJue32vYJ+rFEcH6szdYcrr3He2fQeyZ9FIOdLGQYCFfkl5tVng== X-Received: by 10.176.68.68 with SMTP id m62mr3589023uam.65.1478925692649; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:41:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.119.79 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:41:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Kevin Oberman Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:41:32 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QeBTuKVluFemPuJqsm7FRP9y21M Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lenovo X1 Carbon or T460s To: Mark Heily Cc: Jeremie Le Hen , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 04:41:34 -0000 On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Mark Heily wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > I'm about to purchase a new laptop, one of the two mentioned in the > > subject. > > > > I'm looking for reports of hardware support for both of them under > FreeBSD. > > What are the goods and bads? > > > > > I just purchased a brand new Gen 4 X1 Carbon last week and tried a recent > TrueOS build on it. I'm triple booting it with Windows and Linux for > comparison purposes. Here's what I have seen so far regarding FreeBSD: > > - Wifi and the touchpad work fine. > > - The latest gen HiDPI screens (aka Retina display) have extremely high > resolution relative to the size of the screen, which makes the console > fonts extremely tiny. Even the TrueOS graphical installer was barely usable > due to small fonts. If you want a graphical desktop environment, you'll > have to figure out how to scale applications to look right under HiDPI. > Lumina and the TrueOS display manager did a decent job of it, but didn't > give me enough control over the scaling factor. With the latest Gnome on > Linux, it gives you a lot of control over how applications are scaled. I've > heard KDE5 also has support for HiDPI. > > - Skylake integrated video isn't accelerated. and feels a little slow. > Video playback is choppy and disappointing. > > - Suspend/resume is reported not to work (I have not confirmed this) > > At this point, FreeBSD is still unusable due to display issues (IMHO) and I > spend most of my time booting into Linux :( > > The hardware itself is great, other than the black finish seems to attract > smudges and fingerprints. It's super lightweight, quiet, fast, and the > keyboard and trackpad feel very comfortable In regard to video, have you installed and are you using vaapi? It provides Intel GPU video acceleration sand, on my old Sandy Bridge it made a huge difference in video, at least with software that supports it. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683