From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 16:10:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40BA16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1379C43D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (ilclej@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5EGACaG016265 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:10:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5EGAC8A016264; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:10:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:10:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20050613192009.GA4323@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-amd64 User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:10:14 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:16:13PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). > > There is no difference between Athlon64 and Opteron with respect to heat, > noise and power consumption. There is yes a price difference. That's interesting. I've seen several Athlon64 and Opteron systems, and it was my impression that the latter were all noisier and ran "hotter". But my impression could be wrong. It's also interesting to note that there are now plenty of Athlon64-based notebooks, but I haven't seen any Opteron notebook so far, which lead me to believe that the Athlon64 has some power-saving features which the Opteron lacks. Does the Opteron have "PowerNow" or "Cool'n'Quiet"? Anyway, the price argument is still valid. This is for a private PC at home, so would like to keep the costs down as far as possible. I'll also try to re-use my old hardware, such as a plain old PCI graphics card, so I need neither AGP nor PCI-X oder PCI-E slots ... even a simple on-board graphics would be good (saves one slot). I'm not going to run demanding graphics applications on this machine. Also, I don't need a S-ATA controller, because I don't plan to buy new S-ATA drives. On-board (P-) ATA would be perfect. > > PS: I'm reading the list, so there's no need to Cc me. > > Please set "Reply-To:" so one doesn't have to edit headers. I'm sorry. I intended to do that, but I forgot. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse. -- Larry Wall