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X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 04:15:09 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D217844 rkoberman@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rkoberman@gmail.com --- Comment #2 from rkoberman@gmail.com --- Because hald is mostly abandoned by Gnome and the FreeBSD code is really, really kludged to try to imitate the Linux code when our kernel does not ha= ve the APIs that the linux code wants. even on the Linux side, it is widely=20 considered a really ugly, hackish thing and that is why the Linux devs have mostly moved on to udev and some other tools (devkit?). FreeBSD seems to fa= vor the use of devd for "easy" instances and modifying codes to work with it or using a FreeBSD udev that is more or less a wrapper on devd, that implements the udev API and not requiring changes to the calling code. I see that the latest X11 test code implements both and allows you choose which to try. Porting hald to FreeBSD was an almost heroic effort, but it is still a klud= ge and getting rid of it is a very good idea, IMHO. I really can't see anything but trivial fixes to hald as being worth the effort, but YMMV and patches a= re always welcome. Just be ready for some nausea when you look at the hald cod= e. At least that was my reaction when I first looked at it. Not really awful c= ode (well, some is) but just a broken first attempt to solve a problem. I'd also mention that the FreeBSD hald is heavily modified and it is quite possible that this 0-day is not even relevant to FreeBSD. (No, I am not volunteering to try to find out.) I am not sure what features will be lost = if hald is removed from gvfs, but I suspect that it will impact me. I'm buildi= ng without HAL now to find out. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=