From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Apr 2 3:55:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760F714CB3 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:55:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA11836; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:54:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Donald Wilde Cc: Michael Doyle , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Advocacy In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Apr 1999 08:50:28 MST." <370395C4.899B3EFE@thuntek.net> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 03:54:49 -0800 Message-ID: <11834.923054089@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > pretty for newbies with a lot of eye-catching demo stuff. We will > definitely re-visit this issue. I'm going to be in Concord, CA the 7-8-9 > to visit with Jordan and the folks from WC. We'll talak about this & > many other things! Actually, I don't think that talking about this will really accomplish much of anything since it's already something which has been talked about for years. The FreeBSD demo CD or a counterpart to Slackware's "zipslack" and many similar proposals are one of those cometary topics which come swooshing through -hacker once a year or so, each time generating a lot of "yeah! we really need a ... and it should ... and have a menu which lets you pick ... and ask ..." sorts of comments but absolutely nothing in the way of an actual "product." The reason this generally is is that nobody involved in such discussions to date have also had the spare time and/or technical wizardry to go play interesting vn device games or otherwise figure out where to get a root fs and potentially some swap space from, along with potentially other interesting bits, since booting FreeBSD becomes a little less than straight-forward once you've no handy ufs filesystem lying around. I've examined this one quite a bit myself and see a number of possible approaches to making a workable "zipbsd" or FreeBSD all singing all dancing demo/install CD, but they all fall well into the category of "if you know enough to actually implement any of these suggestions, they'll be already obvious to you and you'll probably have different ideas on how to implement them anyway" tasks. In short, for a thousand and one good suggestions on what such a product should do, see the mailing list archives. For someone with the time and inclination to actually make this a reality, scan the far horizon because I haven't seen that person yet. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message