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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:25:07 +0100
From: Bruce M Simpson <bms@spc.org>
To: Barney Wolff <barney@databus.com>
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Subject: Re: ADSL PPoA or RFC1483, any solutions ?
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On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:17:59PM -0400, Barney Wolff wrote:
> Are you talking about running the phone line directly to the fbsd box
> with no dsl modem?

Yes. Also, PPPoA in FreeBSD is currently only implemented if you use ngatm,
because of the signalling involved. RFC 1483 framing is a simple bolt-on
to the existing HARP drivers, but those don't support xDSL PHYs.

BMS