From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 08:46:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D247106566B for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 08:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FACE8FC19 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 08:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxg33 with SMTP id 33so5540830vxg.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 01:46:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.176.3 with SMTP id bc3mr2707025vcb.26.1309855610269; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 01:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.7.146 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 01:46:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.166.63] In-Reply-To: <4E125E12.9050308@gmail.com> References: <4E125E12.9050308@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 10:46:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: timo.bsdmail@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: why desktop apps are able to kill my freebsd box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 08:46:51 -0000 On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Timo wrote: >> Why a faulty desktop application run as unprivileged user is able to >> crash my system? >> >> I mean, I know programs have bugs and sometimes they lead to crashes. >> I'm fine with that. But why a crashing program (for example firefox or >> banshee) is able to kill the whole system? >> >> And by 'crash' or 'kill' i mean that for whatever reason the system is >> frozen and doesn't reply to anything but a hard reset. Can you still log in via ssh from another box? Or at least, can you ping the "frozen" box from the outside? Usually, a frozen system isn't really frozen, it's just Xorg which is. And that's often related to buggy graphics drivers. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/