From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 18 04:49:11 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA22914 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 04:49:11 -0700 Received: from UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU (root@UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU [129.7.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA22907 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 04:49:07 -0700 Received: from Taronga.COM by UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU with UUCP id AA28119 (5.67a/IDA-1.5); Tue, 18 Jul 1995 06:37:53 -0500 Received: by bonkers.taronga.com (smail2.5p) id AA29600; 18 Jul 95 06:37:11 CDT (Tue) Received: (from peter@localhost) by bonkers.taronga.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA29597; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 06:37:11 -0500 From: Peter da Silva Message-Id: <199507181137.GAA29597@bonkers.taronga.com> Subject: Re: TCL vs... To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty Jr.) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 06:37:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507171938.MAA03709@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty Jr." at Jul 17, 95 12:38:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1588 Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > The "FreeBSD killer app" syndrome smells like technology for the > > > sake of technology. > > Quite the contrary. It's a challenge to that mindset. > Sorry I don't consider this a challenge at all. > Lets assume that for a brief moment or less that you are right. > What will end users do with FreeBSD? What do the end users around here use FreeBSD for? For connecting to the Internet or providing Internet services, mostly. That's a killer app. There really isn't anything else that can do the job as well, except NetBSD, and it's not marketed. > But wait for a real life need it would be best to reboot or move > over to a different machine which run Windows or some other OS with apps. Did I say that or are you reading between the lines... between someone else's lines, it seems...? > Sounds kind of neat for a University environment or an OS research > environment :) > Now what could be a real life need asks Peter? HotJava. Netscape. Freestone. TIS Firewall Toolkit. Netsite. Apache. Mosaic. INN. WUftpd. Fuzzball. IRC. ... But this is a red herring. I wasn't attacking FreeBSD for a lack of killer apps. I consider the Internet to be *the* killer app for FreeBSD. It's just so much more stable, reliable, and effective as an Internet host than just about anything I've used... including BSDI... that it just needs to be marketed to blow away everyone else's platforms. I was asking about the applications for *guile*. Something that makes it worth screwing around with a GPV-infected language when there's 4 other scheme implementations already in ports.