From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 23 16:07:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3592AD66; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1B442724; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6NG7Bqe025453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:07:11 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT04.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.15]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:07:10 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Newbye question VIM problem Thread-Topic: Newbye question VIM problem Thread-Index: AQHOh7ByWJ0dBS6AbUuIC8xhzMRhkJlyqJiAgAAJMYCAAAHggIAACyGAgAADBIA= Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:07:09 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FD6747@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <0E1CF319-55F1-4464-89D0-01C9DC6DC110@aol.com> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FD6533@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <5623550E-AB8A-4898-BAC8-21EA4B92B9C6@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <5623550E-AB8A-4898-BAC8-21EA4B92B9C6@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.121] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <5A6F8F039B0200438B5E85A279550452@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-23_05:2013-07-22,2013-07-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Pietro Paolini , Devin Teske , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:07:14 -0000 On Jul 23, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Pietro Paolini wrote: >=20 > On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: >=20 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=3Dftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.o= rg/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/Latest/&k=3D%2FbkpAU= dJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D%0A&r=3DMrjs6vR4%2Faj2Ns9%2FssHJjg%3D%3D%0A&m=3DEqN= k3zW%2BFthkGaRpyM7lCZDFPyMcUaqjJFP252xoemg%3D%0A&s=3Dbdff9db189b5402b3645c5= 55057e75498aa8736639cf977d5009f66eb6335304 >=20 > Yep, thanks a lot ! >=20 As a side discussion... (opening a can of squiggly worms here) It's often bothered me that the tools don't know about the archive (which g= oes back a long ways and has a very consistent and structured layout). So in authoring the latest tool (bsdconfig(8)), I made sure that the archiv= e is checked (grep archive media/ftp.subr from SVN r247280). Don't know if that was the right move, but here @ Vicor, we've been [ab]usi= ng the archive for .. over a decade? (looks at julian to chime in if he use= d the archive before I got here). But I for one would like to see the archive to maintain its steady growth a= nd be available. Of course, the change to look in the archive seemed (to me at least) to be = a pretty innocuous one (if the archive goes away, they're back to where the= y started... no working URLs). Just wondering why for so long the archive has never been checked by tools = when (imho) that only serves to break old releases sooner with respect to r= emote-fetch of a binary release file (e.g., pkg or dist, etc.). --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.