From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 6 13:38:27 2000 From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 6 13:38:25 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E4E37B400; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 143mGc-0006tl-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:38:22 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eB6Lbvu02833; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:37:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:37:57 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Smith Cc: Terry Lambert , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lynx test / 2nd attempt Message-ID: <20001206223757.D2734@freebie.demon.nl> References: <200012062036.NAA21965@usr08.primenet.com> <200012062053.eB6KrNF52293@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200012062053.eB6KrNF52293@mass.osd.bsdi.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:53:23PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:53:23PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Please find attached the transcript of the boot of yesterdays > > > > Lynx boot floppy. Unfortunately the system still hangs after > > > > the probing PnP devices message. Isn't PnP on Alpha a no-no > > > > anyway? > > > > > > ISA PnP should work just fine. Nobody's pointed out to me how we could > > > obtain the other resource information from SRM, so I haven't made any > > > attempt to emulate the BIOS PnP functionality the x86 has (but I would > > > very much like to, and I know the information is available somewhere). > > > > Is FreeBSD being "a PnP OS" an alpha need? > > I don't think I understand this question. > > > The Shanley/MindShare PnP book documents what an OS needs to do > > to be a "PnP OS". The one problem is that the POST code on most > > cards assumes POSTing by an x86 processor running ROMed x86 code > > from the card itself. > > This assumes that the card has POST firmware at all. Most ISA PnP cards > do not. Most BIOS PnP devices are initted by platform firmware (which > the Alpha has already). Video cards and supported SCSI cards are notable > exceptions; the Alpha platforms run the video BIOS in an x86 emulator, > and the SCSI POST code is integrated into the platform firmware. > > As an aside, I don't think that the PnP scan has anything to do with the > system hanging; it's simply the last probe message printed. I loathe > people that assume that because the last message printed came from > subsystem X that it must be subsystem X that is failing. Boot > verbose, you lame bastards. 8) I did. And posted it. And the last failure was not due to a programming error but due to a faulty floppy disk. AS2100A appears to boot fine into sysinstall. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message