From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 22 19:42:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A641065686; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727BE8FC1F; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2MJV1DM028767; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:31:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:31:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20100322.133102.756786594490272788.imp@bsdimp.com> To: des@des.no From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <867hp4i2oe.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <86y6hkiien.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100322.125222.690091871650369537.imp@bsdimp.com> <867hp4i2oe.fsf@ds4.des.no> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: deischen@freebsd.org, scottl@samsco.org, d@delphij.net, julian@elischer.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Utilize i686, SSE and MMX by default on FreeBSD/i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:42:54 -0000 In message: <867hp4i2oe.fsf@ds4.des.no> Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav writes: : "M. Warner Losh" writes: : > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav writes: : > > Not all "small appliances" are flash-based; the Geode-based soekr= is can : > > use 2.5" disks and has enough memory to run a stock install. The= only : > > trouble I've had is with /etc/periodic/daily/470.status-named, wh= ich : > > uses an ungodly amount of memory. The AMD Geode is more or less : > > equivalent to a Pentium MMX, and does not have SSE. : > You don't really get into the small to flash install realm until yo= u : > start hitting some of the !x86 embedded boxes. There, you have to : > have a hand-crafted firmware load for each box or a limited range o= f : > boxes. : = : I know, I know, I know. My point is that not all !SSE machines are t= iny : embedded systems that can't run GENERIC. Agreed. Most systems in use today that are !SSE are pretty beefy. Warner