From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 13 05:17:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D902A106566C; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57548FC12; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTPSA id 248401194; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:17:49 +0300 Message-ID: <4A5AC36D.1040705@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:17:33 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" References: <37131.1247214217@critter.freebsd.dk> <4A56FC7C.8060107@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp , src-committers@freebsd.org, Scott Long , svn-src-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r195534 - in head: etc/mtree include lib/libcam sbin/camcontrol share/man/man4 sys/cam sys/cam/ata sys/cam/scsi sys/conf sys/dev/advansys sys/dev/ahci sys/dev/aic7xxx sys/dev/amd sys/de... X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:17:54 -0000 Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Scott Long wrote: >> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> In message <200907100818.n6A8I8p1011853@svn.freebsd.org>, Scott Long >>> writes: >>> >>>> ATA drives are accessed via 'ada' device nodes. >>> It there a particular good reason why we insist on making this >>> silly mistake every five years ? >>> >>> I am pretty sure you were around when Justin won friends by renaming >>> the SCSI disk devices ? >> 1. I clearly stated that the name is experimental and that a change in >> the future is possible. > > Well, from a user's perspective, if CD/DVD drives are to be seen as > 'cdX', then it would make sense that hard disks were seen as daX, as > already advertised by cam(4). cdX implemented by cd(4) driver in both cases uses the same SCSI command set. In ATA case, SCSI commands are just wrapped within ATAPI PACKET command. For disks, situation is completely different, as ATA disks have completely different command and feature set. So da(4) is a driver for SCSI command set devices and ada(4) is a driver for ATA command set devices. -- Alexander Motin