From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 27 18:27:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09192 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:27:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09183; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA24285; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:22:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:22:09 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Phillip Salzman cc: mwlucas@exceptionet.com, Poul-Henning Kamp , current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wanton Atticizing is bad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > I seem to remember IPFILTER being required for running > a proxy server such as squid transparently, I could be > mistaken though. I don't see how THIS specific firewall/packet filter/packet forwarder/Salad Shooter is in any way rooted to a specific proxying/caching package such as Squid. With IPFIREWALL, IPFIREWALL_FORWARD, and IPDIVERT, I do not see how IPFILTER adds any new specific abilities (NOT configureabilites, core abilites) that aren't already here in ipfw form. > > If it is, why would something such as this be dumped from > the tree -- some places need transparent proxy serving, do > we really want to lose market share by making it confusing > for them to set it up? > > -- > Phillip Salzman > > > On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 mwlucas@exceptionet.com wrote: > > > > >> IPFILTER > > > > > > > >Wasn't this _just_recently_ committed? Why commit it in the first place if > > > >noone really wants it? Personally, I use IPFW. > > > > > > Yeah, the jury is still out on this one... Any users out there ? > > > > I occasionally use IPFilter. It's trivial to install from source, > > however, provided that the user can follow instructions. > > > > ==ml > > > > -- > > Michael Lucas | > > Exceptionet, Inc. | www.exceptionet.com > > "Exceptional Networking" | Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message