From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 16:02:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB1716A421 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2007 16:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C5513C44B for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2007 16:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.org (p549a4b46.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.75.70]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l59G1i8c002832; Sat, 9 Jun 2007 18:01:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l59G1ecd056030; Sat, 9 Jun 2007 18:01:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l59G2psm042173; Sat, 9 Jun 2007 18:02:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200706091602.l59G2psm042173@fire.jhs.private> To: ghozzy From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix C Net Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen User-agent: EXMH http://beedub.com/exmh/ on FreeBSD http://freebsd.org X-URL: http://berklix.com X-Fallback: jhs@mail.brierdr.com, jhs@freebsd.org, jhs@berklix.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:59:26 +0400." Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:02:51 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.org Cc: jhs@berklix.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.2 & PLIP - does it still work ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:02:15 -0000 Reference: > From: ghozzy > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:59:26 +0400 > Message-id: ghozzy wrote: > On 6/8/07, Julian Stacey wrote: > > Anyone seen PLIP working on FreeBSD-6.2 release ? > > I've tested my PLIP cable between 2 x 4.11 boxes. I'm trying to > > install a laptop with 6.2 boot flops (with failed pcmcia/ether > > recognition) I cant get that laptop & a 6.2 tower to talk to each > > other. Neither will those 2 x 6.2 talk to 4.11. I havent quite > > done all exhaustive tests, (but am exhausted & seems worth asking :-) > > > > Julian > > -- > > Julian Stacey. Munich Computer Consultant, BSD Unix C Linux. http://berklix.com > > HTML mail=spam. Ihr Rauch=mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. Dump cigs 4 snuff. > > It seems to me PLIP has been broken somwhere after branching RELENG_5. > Between two RELENG_4 it worked fine (used from about 4.3 to latest 4.11). > If any end was using RELENG_5 or RELENG_6 it didn't work any more. > I thought first, maybe there were some incompatible changes in protocol > or something, i tried to use the same FreeBSD versions on two ends > (both RELENG_5 or both RELENG_6), but that was not the case. > > My tests were not exhaustive either, but i actually tried to fire it up again > numerous times, enough for my own assurance. > > If anybody could shed some light, i would be curious. > I could also make tests if needed. Thanks for confirmation ghozzy, Can anyone say eg "No it works for me" ? Or now we know PL-IP is broken, Options: - Post net@freebsd for specialists, - Post mobile@freebsd (where it most hurts, as PLIP really needed when pcmcia slots not recognised on older laptops so cant install FreeBSD). - Send-pr for manual to declare plip broken. - Read & compare source of 4.11 & 6.2 Release src/sys/dev/ppbus/if_plip.c (interesting, but short of time, & others who've hacked / broken it might fix quicker ?) I viewed with /usr/ports/textproc/mgdiff & diff not that big, eg diff -c 4.11/usr/src/sys/dev/ppbus/if_plip.c.~1~ \ 6.1/usr/src/sys/dev/ppbus/if_plip.c.~1~ | wc 481 1466 11651 Julian -- Julian Stacey. Munich Computer Consultant, BSD Unix C Linux. http://berklix.com