From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 27 12:58:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E5214DAA for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA70147; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:58:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:58:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Dennis Cc: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: sendmail relaying In-Reply-To: <199906271607.MAA11118@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Dennis wrote: > At 05:45 PM 6/26/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > >On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Dennis wrote: > > > >> Anyone who subscribes to ORBs isnt worth sending mail to anyway, so dont > >> worry about it. One of my (potential) suppliers lost a big order because > >> they kept bouncing my emails *shrug*, I bought from someone else. Some > >> college weenie thought he was doing them a favor and it probably cost them > >> 5 times his salary. > > > >I just checked, etinc.com isn't in the databases I could find. If > >you're not in favor of efforts to limit spam, well, I think you're > >categorizing yourself. > > > >If you think that college student misadministered the system, then that > >is what you should complain about. > > Not any more...we upgraded sendmail a while ago. I guess they took us off > automagically, becuase I never bothered to notify them. > > I don't *know* it was a college student...I was just saying that a lot of > the people that companies have administering their servers/routers dont > know much about the business implications of doing something that they > think is "cool". The may be true so far as it goes, Dennis, but anything that hurts business is not automatically bad, not if the business involved is performing (or allowing to be performed) acts generally deemed by the public to be anti-social or inimical to human society. It's a gray area, given, but your response makes me feel your position is "if it hurts business, it's bad" and I thoroughly disagree. It's ridiculously easy to find examples of this. Don't use a broad brush, then ... if you disagree with something, either be specific or be painted as evil yourself. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic and jaunt, both FreeBSD-current. (301) 220-2114 | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message