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Date:      Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:10:45 +0300
From:      freebsd@tern.ru
To:        Jez Hancock <jez.hancock@munk.nu>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re[2]: Problem with DNS (UDP) queries
Message-ID:  <1399021926.20040112111045@tern.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20040109230801.GE1488@users.munk.nu>
References:  <1775511953.20040109173220@tern.ru> <20040109144956.GB87284@users.munk.nu> <1839710842.20040109181325@tern.ru> <20040109230801.GE1488@users.munk.nu>

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Maybe you are right.
I'll try to set it up (switch to logging via ipfw) and see if there is
something that I do not like in this config. Don't know why, I feel
some discomfort while thinking about this solution.

JH> On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 06:13:25PM +0300, freebsd@tern.ru wrote:
>> Yes, I had thought about what you wrote.
>> Because of this I mentioned that 'I do not want to turn off the "log
>> in vain" feature.'
JH> In that case I imagine you'd need to hack the kernel source code to make
JH> it not log vain udp port 53 requests.  I'm fairly sure it's an 'all or
JH> nothing' sysctl mib/flag.

JH> Why do you want to log those vain connection attempts using
JH> 'log_in_vain' though? It would be a lot more suitable to use the
JH> logging feature in ipfw2 and disable the log_in_vain feature completely.

JH> Just my opinion though :P

>> JH> On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 05:32:20PM +0300, freebsd@tern.ru wrote:
>> >> Hi all
>> >> 
>> >> I am trying to get rid of strings:
>> >>  kernel: Connection attempt to UDP FREEBSD_IP:port from DNSSERVER_IP:53
>> >> on my console and in log file
>> >> 
>> >> I understand that those are replies on DNS queries that for some reason
>> >>  took too long time to be answered.
>> >> I do not want to turn off the "log in vain" feature.
>> >> 
>> >> As these strings fill up my log I am afraid to miss some sensitive
>> >> messages (e.g. hacker's attack :)
>> >> 
>> >> I'm using FreeBSD 5.1 with ipfw2 that allows via static rules both
>> >>                 DNS queries and DNS replies.
>> >> 
>> >> The main application that generates queries is sendmail.
>> >> 
>> >> What can be done?
>> JH> I believe those messages are generated if the following sysctl flag is
>> JH> set:
>> 
>> JH> net.inet.udp.log_in_vain
>> 
>> JH> you can disable it by executing:
>> 
>> JH> sysctl net.inet.udp.log_in_vain=0
>> 
>> JH> on the commandline.
>> 
>> JH> Obviously though this will disable logging of all vain connection attempts using
>> JH> the udp protocol.  However if you have ipfw set up to log such attempts,
>> JH> you don't really need that sysctl flag set anyway.
>> 
>> JH> See also the tcp equivalant flag:
>> 
>> JH> net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain
>> 
>> JH> also see the manpage for rc.conf(5) regarding the log_in_vain rc.conf
>> JH> setting.
>> 
>> Alex.
>>                             
>> 





Alex.
                            



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