From owner-cvs-all Sun Oct 28 17:35:42 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F0437B40B for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 17:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14023 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 01:35:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Oct 2001 01:35:25 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <39257.1004298767@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 17:35:25 -0700 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Causing known breakage (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_c Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, Greg Lehey , dan@langille.org Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28-Oct-01 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <3BDC09F6.9492.31010D7C@localhost>, "Dan Langille" writes: >>On 28 Oct 2001 at 9:32, Matthew Jacob wrote: >> >>> I have no problem with the panic. But when one disables a warning and >>> makes it a panic, it'd be nice to have a headsup. Any statement that a >>> headsup is *not* a good idea is just nonsense. >>> >>> No criticism of PHK and the warnings -> panics was intended by me. The >>> tone I was selecting was simply one of extremly mild "would have been >>> nice". This has now blown up into a major lovefest along the usual lines. >>> I'm sorry- I had no intention of inducing such. >> >>I suggest the following should satisfy everyone: >> >>1 - back out the change >>2 - issue a HEADS UP about step 3 >>3 - reinstate the change after a period of time stated in step 2 > > I think people need to realize the that the warning which got turned > into a panic _was_ the HEADS UP, and that the period was 1+ years. > > Get a grip guys... The warning did not include a deadline. Come on, HEADS UP aren't that hard to type out. :) That's petty. Backing this out would also be petty. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message