From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Nov 23 12:23:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51340DEB6AA for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan@digitaldaemon.com) Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [162.217.114.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9A63692F7 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan@digitaldaemon.com) Received: (qmail 51161 invoked by uid 89); 23 Nov 2017 12:16:25 -0000 Received: from c-24-0-179-87.hsd1.nj.comcast.net (HELO iMac.local) (jan@digitaldaemon.com@24.0.179.87) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2017 12:16:25 -0000 Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) To: bsd-lists@BSDforge.com Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <5f4a62166aeb423a406a902bdc7078bc@udns.ultimatedns.net> From: Jan Knepper Message-ID: <3a3393b4-a092-e619-e28d-ce099330bf42@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 07:16:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5f4a62166aeb423a406a902bdc7078bc@udns.ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:23:09 -0000 On 11/22/2017 21:53, Chris H wrote: > If this is about removing things from FreeBSD that don't offer/provide > "utility". > Than you *should* have removed /usr/games entirely. Let's *actually* be > "completely honest" about all this. > > I think I'm done here. Sorry. :( Having used, hosted, patched FreeBSD for ~25 years, I personally like 'fortune', or something alike with 'hits' about the system, shell, etc... However, I doubt there is a 'system requirement' to have it as part of base. I have *never* used 'games', ever that I recall... :-) I am personally less (really not) concerned about 'offensive' entries. People throughout history have said and written things that will offend someone somewhere. In the USA I would think this effectively falls under the First Amendment. We can say what we want, when we want, as long as we understand that we are (still!) *responsible* for what we say. As long as such potential entries are properly accredited to the origin, even if the entry is potentially offensive we could learn something from it. (IMHO it is not wrong or bad to be reminded of evil done in history). Just my 2 cents. Not an invite to discussion... Jan