Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:30:36 -0300 From: lioux@uol.com.br To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: [lioux@uol.com.br: Re: Postfix/Gnats problem?] Message-ID: <20000521233036.B60042@Fedaykin.here>
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On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 03:22:17PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: > > I'd suggest you take heart since there are sometimes mail delays in > delivering mail. For example, I committed the kde-qt-addon port to the > tree last Tuesday and only got the message about it yesterday. No rush. I can wait. I can surely understand the burden that falls on both the system and the committer crowd. :) > FreeBSD.org's connection may be the cause of problems.. most of the > cluster is still on a single T1. :-( What had me worried was the fact that no emails at all were getting through. Not even emails sent to freebsd-ports@freebsd.org. After a prompt response from jmb@freebsd.org, I found out the problem. The fact is that FreeBSD's postfix was configured to deny access to mail relay host without both A and PTR DNS records. I don't think it was the best course of action for FreeBSD given the broad sprectrum of users. Some do not have both records configured at their mail relay system, and most of these do not have control over this. Besides, changing email sites (read ISPs) is not an easy thing to accomplish for most of these users. Enough devil's advocacy, I understand why this was done for I have not only advocated but also applied such measures at some instalations. However, IMHO this is not the best move for such a broad site. That's my NSHO. It is my understanding that there are less destructive (though less effective) ways to handle SPAM, e.g., www.abuse.net, as I am sure many of us know. One of the goals of FreeBSD is to give liberty/freedom/accessability. Some of these are not been met right now. I do believe this happened because the amount of SPAM was felt as unacceptable, but some noise is the price of our free speech. And yes, I can appreciate the amount of SPAM that can go through having administered both in-campus and ISPs mailsystems. :) Humm, I guess this last paragragh is a bit enerved and it was not meant for you. It is that I dislike measures that give some benefits but take so much more. This is probably the source of so many complains about GNATS that we have seen lately. As for me. Now that I know the source of communication loss, I told my qmail system to contact hub.freebsd.org directly instead of relaying to the ISP at dialup connection. :) Besides my ISP being told about it but I don't expect any resolution on their part. As you can see I am not happy but I will live though barely surviving. heheh IMHO there will be trouble in the long run as I've seen myself at campus where I had such a policy working; and, we did not have such big mailing lists. ;) Just wait till a commiter have problems. We had teachers. Hhehe :P Regards, Mario Ferreira To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message
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