From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 12 15:13:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4A616A401 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from proof.pobox.com (proof.pobox.com [207.106.133.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543D943D66 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:13:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from proof (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proof.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831E4E35CD; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mappit.local.linnet.org (212-74-113-67.static.dsl.as9105.com [212.74.113.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by proof.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2938636D65; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brian by mappit.local.linnet.org with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FTh2D-000LNR-RN; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:13:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:13:33 +0100 From: Brian Candler To: fooler Message-ID: <20060412151333.GA82148@uk.tiscali.com> References: <443BDE05.8040204@elischer.org> <0cba01c65de0$f656f7f0$42764eca@ilo.skyinet.net> <20060412123254.GB81569@uk.tiscali.com> <0f0e01c65e41$c127bd10$42764eca@ilo.skyinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0f0e01c65e41$c127bd10$42764eca@ilo.skyinet.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer , "M. Parsons" Subject: Re: PPPoE question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:13:42 -0000 On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 10:59:52PM +0800, fooler wrote: > >>set speed sync > > > >And how does that change the pppoe ethernet frames? > > nothing change and still the same... ethernet frames are at layer 2 while > synchronization (either asynchronous or synchronous) is at layer 1... > synchronous is much better than asynchronous for ethernet links... Then I think you have a misunderstanding. Ethernet frames are *always* synchronous. There are no 'start' and 'stop' bits in ethernet, only frame delimiters. The sync/async difference only has meaning for serial links (e.g. where layer 1 is RS232 / V24) PPP frames carried inside ethernet (i.e. pppoe) are therefore also carried using synchronous encoding, since ethernet is synchronous. Brian.