From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 24 12:05:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B42616A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:05:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F411943D3F for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:05:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40A217017; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:05:19 -0300 (BRT) Received: from coe.ufrj.br ([146.164.53.65]) by localhost (roma.coe.ufrj.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35026-03; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:05:16 -0300 (BRT) Received: from [10.0.8.17] (nat.int.gov.br [200.20.196.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1255B1701B; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:05:16 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <421DC2FB.1020300@jonny.eng.br> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:05:15 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Carlos_Mendes_Lu=EDs?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markus Trippelsdorf References: <1109172559.702.13.camel@bsd.trippelsdorf.de> <20050223175725.GA26395@dragon.nuxi.com> <421D052D.3030909@jonny.eng.br> <1109203614.577.5.camel@bsd.trippelsdorf.de> In-Reply-To: <1109203614.577.5.camel@bsd.trippelsdorf.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at coe.ufrj.br cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: IDE lockups - Was: ext2 filesystem lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:05:21 -0000 Markus Trippelsdorf wrote: > On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 19:35 -0300, João Carlos Mendes Luís wrote: > >>David O'Brien wrote: >> >>>On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 04:29:19PM +0100, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote: >>> >>> >>>>When copying large files to a locally mounted ext2 filesystem >>>>my system always locks up. >>>>Is this a known problem in 64bit mode? >> >>Just curious: what is the drive interface with the ext2fs? IDE? > > > Yes, it's the normal IDE interface (ATA UDMA133 drive). Could you please test it under UFS, just for debugging purposes? My experience shows that it needs a very large dataset to make the system freeze. My last lock up happened during the pre-downgrade backup, which means copying 200G from one disk to the other on the same IDE interface. Your mileage may vary. A question for the list: Is there an official "maintainer" for IDE/ATA interface? What kind of debugging could we do to help? >>The very same hardware is now on 32-bit mode FreeBSD 5.3-stable, without >>any problems at all. >> >> >>>>Which filesystem is recommended for multi-OS file exchange? >>> >>>I've heard enought reports of ext2 problems on 32-bit i386, that I don't >>>trust it in situations that "have to work". By far the most widely >>>supported FS is vfat32 [mount_msdosfs(8)]. >> >>The last time I had to use msdosfs, on 4.* it was extremely slow >>compared to UFS on the same disk. Did this get better on 5.*? > > I want to use the filesystem for my music collection, so I'm willing to > trade fastness for reliability. If you use only linux and BSD, choose ext2fs or ufs depending on which OS you use most. If you need windows, then you must choose between msdosfs or ext2fs, since I do not yet know about an UFS driver for windows.