From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Apr 17 18:22:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EFD37B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oldfart@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3I1MRS13636 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oldfart@gtonet.net) Reply-To: From: "oldfart@gtonet" To: Subject: RE: Windriver, Slackware and FreeBSD Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:22:26 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I guess, maybe, I wasn't clear enough. I, too, hate to see people laid off. I've had to lay off others and I've been laid off myself. Cruel or not, it's a part of the IT world we live and work in. I'm very sure SOME of them are quite nice people and I wish them no hardships. That said, I could care less about Linux and if it disappeared from the face of the planet tomorrow, it wouldn't be too soon for *me*. Maybe I'm a FreeBSD NUT, maybe I'm a Linux hater, either way or maybe both. :) That's an interesting quote that has been turned around to fit many "causes." Regardless, Linux is not a Right or a Race and when Linux is "came for," I'll be clapping. Linux is NOT the same as Hitler coming for the Jews or the Democrats coming for my guns. I suppose you'll all want to know, WHY I dislike Linux so? Mostly based on the userbase. The constant scans, abuse and DoS attacks of my, and other people's, networks by wannabe-linux-hackers. I think it's quite well said at the following persons website, http://www.spatula.net/proc/linux/index.src I can take no credit for that site, it's not mine. I do love it so. Yes, I know that it's not entirely correct anymore. I think there's even a disclaimer about some of the bugs being fixed and I'm sure some of the links are now dead. That's my story and I'm sticking to it, OF > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ceren Ercen > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 6:04 PM > To: oldfart@gtonet > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Windriver, Slackware and FreeBSD > > > > I'm sorry you feel like this. > Have you ever met the Slackware people? They are pretty amazing. > > I was lucky enough to be invited into the Walnut Creek booth with them, > when WCCDROM was sponsoring the FreeBSD and Slackware presences at > conventions. > > Part of what amazes some people about FreeBSD is that we're able to > accomplish so much more per person/contributer than Linux, in general. I > feel fairly safe in saying that Slackware has similar personality. > > I, and perhaps others who are constantly under Damocles' sword of layoffs, > cringe to read this sentence of yours. "Nothing personal", perhaps, but > fairly cold and cruel, regardless. > > ...When they came for the linux people, I did not protest, because I > didn't like linux...? > > (note that I have said absolutely nothing criticizing or even commenting > on WindRiver's move or its sensibility. ) > > Ceren Ercen > FreeBSD's "Strange Attractor" > cercen@linuxcare.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, oldfart@gtonet wrote: > > > Nothing personal but I say, "good riddance" to ANYTHING Linux. > > > > IMHO, > > > > OF > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Johnson > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:16 PM > > > To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Windriver, Slackware and FreeBSD > > > > > > > > > Today's announcement of the abandonment of Slackware caught me by > > > surprise. All Slackware employees laid off. Slackware was *profitable* > > > for Walnut Creek and BSDi. I think they've lost more in good will than > > > they will gain. That, plus some blatant GPL baiting, makes Windriver > > > pretty slimy. > > > > > > So, how is FreeBSD going to fare? Will they be canned as > well? Will they > > > try to distance themselves from Windriver? I think it would serve > > > Windriver right if Slackware, FreeBSD and the ftp.freesoftware.com > > > people upped, left, and started over with their own company. > > > > > > David > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message