From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Tue Oct 27 11:58:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B176A1FAF0 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED3FD15CC; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t9RBwAda032337 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:58:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua t9RBwAda032337 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id t9RBwAWT032332; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:58:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:58:10 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Andriy Gapon Cc: freebsd-hackers , Poul-Henning Kamp , Jung-uk Kim Subject: Re: instability of timekeeping Message-ID: <20151027115810.GU2257@kib.kiev.ua> References: <56261398.60102@FreeBSD.org> <56261FE6.90302@FreeBSD.org> <56274FFC.2000608@FreeBSD.org> <20151021184850.GX2257@kib.kiev.ua> <562F3E2F.2010100@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <562F3E2F.2010100@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:58:21 -0000 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:04:47AM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > And now another observation. I have C1E option enabled in BIOS. It > means that if all cores enter C1 state, then the whole processor > is magically placed into a deep C-state (C3, I think). LAPIC timer > on this CPU model does not run in the deep C-state. So, I had to > disable C1E option to test the LAPIC timer in a useful way. But > before actually testing it I first tried to reproduce the problem. As > you might have already guessed the problem is gone with that option > disabled. Scratching my head to understand the implications of this > observation. Most obvious explanation would be that the latency of wakeup is very large. What is the HPET frequency when the jitter occur ?