From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jan 24 2:27:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3C637B404; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0O9vgv98666; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:57:42 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:57:42 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Terry Lambert Cc: Nik Clayton , David Schultz , "f.johan.beisser" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Intaller (was "Re: ... RedHat ...") Message-ID: <20020124095742.J53456@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020123114658.A514@lpt.ens.fr> <20020123091107.T32624-100000@localhost> <20020123124025.A60889@HAL9000.wox.org> <3C4F5BEE.294FDCF5@mindspring.com> <20020124014413.F53456@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <3C4F6CAB.76D9CAE2@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6K2R/cS9K4qvcBNq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C4F6CAB.76D9CAE2@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 06:08:43PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --6K2R/cS9K4qvcBNq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 06:08:43PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote: > > You, or anyone else, are free to create their own installer and/or > > related technologies. You can create your own FreeBSD distro if you wa= nt, > > and go and market it. > >=20 > > But you must also include, somewhere, the project's installation > > routine, and provide a mechanism that lets the end user choose what gets > > run. >=20 > How about we call this mechanism "buying CDROM A instead of CDROM B"? How about we call it "Providing a fall back that the project can point to on -questions so they can say 'We can't answer questions about any installer except the project's -- please contact your vendor if you're having problems with their installation routine'". > > For example, you might ship on CDROM, and include the project's floppy > > disk images, and instructions on how to use them to create a "FreeBSD > > Project" install. >=20 > This is actually the first time this particular option has > been raised as "permissable". I've mentioned this before, and to you. Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:25:13 +0100 Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral Message-ID: <20010710112513.D16152@clan.nothing-going-on.org> [...] Not at all. If you're thinking of shipping a CD, make sure that somewhere on that CD is a copy of the existing two floppy images, a copy of fdimage (or similar), and a paragraph of documentation that says: If you would prefer to use the standard FreeBSD installer (sysinstall) then take two blank floppies. Insert the first floppy, and run "fdimage mfsroot.flp a:", then insert the second floppy and run "fdimage boot.flp a:". Leave that floppy in the drive, and reboot (making sure to set your BIOS to "boot from floppy"). The FreeBSD Project installer will then start. Using this installer is not documented here (we strongly urge you to use the installer we provide and document) but it is covered in chapter 2 of the FreeBSD Handbook, at http://www.FreeBSD.org/. That would completely satisfy the requirements I've outlined. [...] > > Or you could describe how the user can interrupt the > > boot process and change the init path variable to point to sysinstall > > instead of your own installer. >=20 > Not workable, due to CDROM boot image size restrictions. That's not an issue. By this point, the CD has already booted, and we're in the FreeBSD loader. Specifically, I'm talking about setting the "init_path" variable. Your custom distribution might come with init_path set to "/terry/install". Your instructions just need to say: If you would prefer to use the standard FreeBSD installer, boot from CDROM as normal. When you see the '>' prompt, press SPACE to interrupt the boot process. Then type set init_path=3D/stand/sysinstall boot The FreeBSD Project installer will then start. Using this installer is not documented here (we strongly urge you to use the installer we provide and document) but it is covered in chapter 2 of the FreeBSD Handbook, at http://www.FreeBSD.org/. 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