From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 21 21:32:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0464316A41F for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:32:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0F6A43DAE for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:29:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 6409 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2005 21:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 21 Nov 2005 21:28:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 17185 invoked by uid 89); 21 Nov 2005 21:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 21 Nov 2005 21:28:59 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB96B841; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:28:57 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:28:56 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Vizion Message-ID: <20051121232856.064c5cfa@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <200511211306.01679.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> References: <200511210839.56424.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <20051121191335.GA56240@csh.rit.edu> <20051121225729.5c08a18d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <200511211306.01679.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wesley Shields , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPDATING - needs updating? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:32:20 -0000 On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:06:00 -0800 Vizion wrote: > On Monday 21 November 2005 12:57, the author Ion-Mihai Tetcu > contributed to the dialogue on- > Re: UPDATING - needs updating?: > > >On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:13:35 -0500 > > > >Wesley Shields wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:39:55AM -0800, Vizion wrote: > >> > Hi > >> > > >> > I have noticed that some earlier notices relating to some ports > >> > in UPDATING appear as though they have been made out of data by > >> > newer notices (e.g kde 20050804 seems to replace 20050324) and > >> > sometimes the instructions conflict with one another. While I > >> > presuime the latest notice always takes precedence I wonder if > >> > it would be possible to have notices that are no longer current > >> > removed from UPDATING. > >> > >> I think this is probably a bad idea, simply from a historical > >> perspective. If I wanted to chase down a bug that was available > >> only for a specified time period I would like to know the > >> corresponding UPDATING entries. > > > >there are enough old machines out there for which the "old" > >instructions still apply; in some cases it might not be able to > >update w/o intermediary steps. > > Interesting perspective.. > > You have got me wondering if a web interface could be used to drag > relevant data from UPDATING based upon the output from pkg_info? Hmm. I don't see this being a high priority. Your web interface should also look at depends; if installed ports are very out-of-date it's possible that one port mentioned in the file will depend on an other; and you'll want to check MOVED too. What it would be really nice in regard of automatic processing of UPDATING is to have CATEGORY/PORTNAME listed on AFFECTS list. I.e.: 20051105: AFFECTS: users of x11-toolkits/qt33 - this one I can easily grep (I have the date and the port) 20051105: AFFECTS: all users of gnome/glib/gtk - this one is much harder to process; I keep ports fairly updated on my machines because I don't want to run in this king of trouble, but this is not always possible. -- IOnut - Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" BOFH excuse #441: Hash table has woodworm