From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Fri Apr 7 13:39:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BC3D311F9 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 13:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from mailhost.dlr.de (mailhost.dlr.de [129.247.252.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailhost.dlr.de", Issuer "DLR CA - G02" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 473C2EA4 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 13:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from DLREXHUB01.intra.dlr.de (172.21.152.130) by mailhost.dlr.de (172.21.163.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:37:57 +0200 Received: from KNOP-BEAGLE.kn.op.dlr.de (129.247.178.136) by smtp.dlr.de (172.21.152.151) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:37:57 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:38:41 +0200 From: Hartmut Brandt X-X-Sender: brandt_h@KNOP-BEAGLE.kn.op.dlr.de To: Subject: Re: Impending NATM removal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20170406235747.GA8756@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-11.0.0.4283-8.100.1062-22990.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--2.089600-5.000000-31 X-TM-AS-MatchedID: 150567-700075-708497-701837-701618-702920-106360-707182-1 06390-701146-705901-701588-705388-703176-700617-188019-701446-303086-707926 -106420-704156-139705-702560-700486-701249-700047-700108-703829-148004-1480 50-42000-42003 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 13:39:23 -0000 On Fri, 7 Apr 2017, ?ukasz W?jcik wrote: ?W>they're not the only ones. Just my 5cents. The other thing is that ATM/NATM ?W>infrastructure in FreeBSD seems to never have been ?W> ?W>finished. That's true. ITU-T used to produce poor-quality ATM standards at a much higher rate than anybody could follow and the ATM-Forum at one point decided just to copy the ITU-T stuff :-(. Then I changed work and had almost zero involvment with ATM anymore... I would guess that keeping ATM alive in 11-stable (and updating drivers if necessary) would be the best way to go. harti ?W> ?W> ?W>On 07-Apr-17 01:57, Brooks Davis wrote: ?W>> As previously threatened, I plan to remove NATM support next week. This ?W>> includes the drivers en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and patm(4). None of ?W>> these devices have been manufactured in the last 20 years so it is time ?W>> to move on. ?W>> ?W>> The planned commit can be seen at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9883 ?W>> ?W>> -- Brooks ?W> ?W> ?W>_______________________________________________ ?W>freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list ?W>https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net ?W>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"