From owner-freebsd-wireless@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 21 20:03:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CF0A40; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bu7cher@yandex.ru) Received: from forward16.mail.yandex.net (forward16.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F662225; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (smtp16.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.16]) by forward16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 63891D22067; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 00:03:31 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B44576A0754; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 00:03:30 +0400 (MSK) Received: from v3-151-7.yandex.net (v3-151-7.yandex.net [84.201.151.7]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id cS8prTbqQD-3U848Fwd; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 00:03:30 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1382385810; bh=BbQJ1RGNFY5UVp5wFZPZJxeUtqaWILQasz8lK1ScA+s=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B09Z0qGjBDvz2qKjnYN7DWGgPehJyxbtFNJmoUhrR96dUWizom3o35tVc8wbSkvLu LaV+qLX8WqIyjbthjP3O/ljgifLRpJgWjSkmXpB1Mu6JnGyBZC3k3J4aH4Prf6oeei xpw0Un58xWaIbcGJ0YQXAwjNDsWXiQg/n3/nORNo= Authentication-Results: smtp16.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Message-ID: <5265878B.1050809@yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 23:59:07 +0400 From: "Andrey V. Elsukov" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator References: <81.4D.19454.84022625@cdptpa-oedge03> In-Reply-To: <81.4D.19454.84022625@cdptpa-oedge03> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:03:34 -0000 On 19.10.2013 10:01, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I too would like to see more effort writing new Ethernet and wifi > drivers and porting from other operating systems. > > But I would like to keep the NDISulator/NDISwrapper as a fallback. > > There are still wifi adapters, Ethernet too, where there is no > FreeBSD driver (AR9271 for instance), or the FreeBSD driver is > buggy. I'm agree. While there are still some devices without native drivers, but that work via NDISulator, we should keep it. -- WBR, Andrey V. Elsukov