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Date:      08 Nov 2002 11:42:53 +1000
From:      Duncan Anker <d.anker@au.darkbluesea.com>
To:        KizerSoze <kizersoze@sbcglobal.net>
Cc:        twig les <twigles@yahoo.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: monitoring CPU/mem etc without SNMP
Message-ID:  <1036719773.29096.36.camel@duncan>
In-Reply-To: <HEECLIFMNNPIOOGJFBKMGEBLCDAA.kizersoze@sbcglobal.net>
References:  <HEECLIFMNNPIOOGJFBKMGEBLCDAA.kizersoze@sbcglobal.net>

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On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 11:36, KizerSoze wrote:
> You may want to check this out.
> 
> http://www.nagios.org/
> 
> Also, www.netsaint.org	although i don't think that is being actively
> developed anymore...not sure if nagios is in the port tree but I'll let you
> figure that out.

Nagios is the successor to Netsaint - it's basically the same product.

As far as monitoring disk space, CPU and the like Nagios/Netsaint use
SNMP.

You said you can't use SNMP because of security. How is it any more
insecure than runing a mail or web server?

Given that you want something secure, perhaps if you run cron jobs on
all the boxes locally to do the monitoring, and then use SSH to get the
results?

Just a thought. It makes more sense than running the monitoring through
SSH.

> 
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of KizerSoze
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:10 PM
> To: twig les; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: monitoring CPU/mem etc without SNMP
> 
> 
> I think trying to find a systems management/monitoring solution that doesn't
> use snmp that is free might be difficult.  I'm sure there are applications
> out there that will do what your looking for but that will have a daemon
> running on your managed client, or, monitored system, and with that said,
> then you have to start thinking about how to secure that.
> 
> If your worried about security and all of these machines are running
> FreeBSD, then why not run ipfw or ipf on those machines to allow only those
> machines you specify in?  That way you could run SNMP and do utilize snmp
> queries to collect data.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of twig les
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 4:30 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: monitoring CPU/mem etc without SNMP
> 
> 
> Hey all, after a bit of thinking and some looking thru
> email archives I'm still stumped on a way to get CPU,
> memory, disk I/O, disk use etc.... info from one
> machine to another without using SNMP.  All these
> boxes are FreeBSD 4.7 Release.
> 
> I'm sure I could rig a script to ssh into the boxes
> and do a df -h etc. and write the info to a file but
> my gut tells me there is a MUCH better solution that
> someone with far better programming skills has already
> come up with and stuck in the ports collection.
> 
> So is anyone doing this?  The key I'm looking for is
> security, which negates SNMP.  Something small and
> secure with almost no extra features would be nice.
> 
> TIA
> 
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