From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 18 0:55: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DC237B400; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:54:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 14JAq2-000Nmv-00; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:54:34 +0000 To: Neil Blakey-Milner , Dima Dorfman , Dan Langille , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Cliff Sarginson Subject: Re: too much confusion over kernel building Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:54:34 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@btvs.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 192.250.24.58 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, This thread has turned very esoteric and has now moved into the realms of the hackers. It might be worth saying that if this thread created so much hacker-dom imagine what problems new kids on the block may be having... Cliff > On Wed 2001-01-17 (23:53), Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > On Thu 2001-01-18 (20:22), Dan Langille wrote: > > > > It might be because it doesn't work. The following box works with the > > > > "old" style, but fails with the "new" style: > > > > > > There'll probably be a 'nm' error somewhere above. I've asked people to > > > comment, including Marcel, and haven't got any replies. > > > > > > The "new" style should be the same as the "old" style. If it's broken, > > > fix the "new" style, don't suggest the "old" style. > > > > I'm in the same boat. I always thought that buildkernel would revert > > to using the installed binaries if there's nothing useful in /usr/obj. > > If the source tree you're building is the same as the running one, it > > shouldn't fail. > > This is causing the problem: > > My reminder to Marcel and other hackers that this problem exists: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=729536+733077+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/cvs-all/20001224.cvs-all > > Marcel, the designer of the new system, saying that buildkernel should > revert to the running system in the absence of a populated /usr/obj: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=761905+765570+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/cvs-all/20001224.cvs-all > > A description of why 'nm' is failing: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=837688+841420+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/cvs-all/20001224.cvs-all > > Anyway, I'll quickly test the patches, and ask for someone to review > again. > > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message