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Date:      Wed, 17 May 2023 13:33:22 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com>
Cc:        Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org,  Elena Mihailescu <elenamihailescu22@gmail.com>, Mihai Carabas <mihai.carabas@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: ARM64 virtualization?
Message-ID:  <CA%2B1FSihTi-zyk_VU9vuQ_BYcPqV_69hYt6S0O41AsH5cx4WnDw@mail.gmail.com>
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oh my god. That's such a nice toy to play with. Too much expensive for my
pockets. I'm making experiences with cheaper socs like the tegra
ones,jetson nano and maybe in the next future,the jetson orin. Do you think
that if I buy the jetson orin,I could be able to help you,anyway ?

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 2:11=E2=80=AFPM Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com> wr=
ote:

> I'm getting the Ampere Developer Kit from
> https://www.ipi.wiki/products/com-hpc-ampere-altra .
>
>
> --
>
> Rebecca Cran
>
>
> On 5/16/23 10:14, Mario Marietto wrote:
> > Hello Rebecca,
> >
> > i will be happy to help you. what system you will buy ? i want to
> > evaluate the cost. If it is affordable for me I will also buy the same
> > and i could test your code or something else task that you need. i ve
> > been always interested in the bhyve development.
> >
> > Il mar 16 mag 2023, 17:41 Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com> ha scritto:
> >
> >     On 5/15/23 13:58, Matthew Grooms wrote:
> >
> >     > On 5/15/2023 2:39 PM, John F Carr wrote:
> >     >> Is there any active work on getting bhyve virtualization
> >     working on
> >     >> 64 bit ARM?  I see some work was started a few years ago (e.g.
> >     >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26976,
> >     >> https://bhyvecon.org/bhyvecon2016-Mihai.pdf). It seems to have
> >     been
> >     >> abandoned or at least stalled.
> >     >>
> >     >> I may be able to help.  It's not a project I can take on myself.
> >     >
> >     > Porting bhyve to arm has been one of the longest running UPB
> >     projects.
> >     > You can find more info on the history here ...
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/202303?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dview&t=
arget=3DPresentation+-+bhyvecon.pdf
> >     <
> https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/202303?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dview&t=
arget=3DPresentation+-+bhyvecon.pdf
> >
> >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Your best bet is probably to take a look a the following review
> >     opened
> >     > by Andrew Turner late last year. His work is based on the origina=
l
> >     > port by the UPB team ...
> >     >
> >     > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37428
> >     >
> >     > I can't speak to the current state of this work. From what I
> >     recall,
> >     > there were several attempts made by UPB to collaborate, but they
> >     > failed to get a response. Perhaps he/they can chime in here with
> >     more
> >     > detail.
> >
> >     I'll be getting an Ampere system in the next few weeks and hope to =
be
> >     able to work on the Aarch64 bhyve code.
> >
> >
> >     --
> >
> >     Rebecca Cran
> >
> >
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">oh my god. That&#39;s such a nice toy to play with. Too mu=
ch expensive for my pockets. I&#39;m making experiences with cheaper socs l=
ike the tegra ones,jetson nano and maybe in the next future,the jetson orin=
. Do you think that if I buy the jetson orin,I could be able to help you,an=
yway ?<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 2:11=E2=80=AFPM Rebecca Cran &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:rebecca@bsdio.com">rebecca@bsdio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I&#39;m getting the Ampere D=
eveloper Kit from <br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ipi.wiki/products/com-hpc-ampere-altra" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ipi.wiki/products/com-hpc-ampere-altra=
</a> .<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
Rebecca Cran<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/16/23 10:14, Mario Marietto wrote:<br>
&gt; Hello Rebecca,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; i will be happy to help you. what system you will buy ? i want to <br>
&gt; evaluate the cost. If it is affordable for me I will also buy the same=
 <br>
&gt; and i could test your code or something else task that you need. i ve =
<br>
&gt; been always interested in the bhyve development.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Il mar 16 mag 2023, 17:41 Rebecca Cran &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rebecca@b=
sdio.com" target=3D"_blank">rebecca@bsdio.com</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 5/15/23 13:58, Matthew Grooms wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; On 5/15/2023 2:39 PM, John F Carr wrote:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt; Is there any active work on getting bhyve =
virtualization<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0working on<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt; 64 bit ARM?=C2=A0 I see some work was star=
ted a few years ago (e.g.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26=
976" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D2697=
6</a>,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://bhyvecon.org/bhyvecon20=
16-Mihai.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://bhyvecon.org/bhy=
vecon2016-Mihai.pdf</a>). It seems to have<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0been<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt; abandoned or at least stalled.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;&gt; I may be able to help.=C2=A0 It&#39;s not =
a project I can take on myself.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Porting bhyve to arm has been one of the longe=
st running UPB<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0projects.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; You can find more info on the history here ...=
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/20230=
3?action=3DAttachFile&amp;do=3Dview&amp;target=3DPresentation+-+bhyvecon.pd=
f" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/=
202303?action=3DAttachFile&amp;do=3Dview&amp;target=3DPresentation+-+bhyvec=
on.pdf</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/2=
02303?action=3DAttachFile&amp;do=3Dview&amp;target=3DPresentation+-+bhyveco=
n.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSum=
mit/202303?action=3DAttachFile&amp;do=3Dview&amp;target=3DPresentation+-+bh=
yvecon.pdf</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Your best bet is probably to take a look a the=
 following review<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0opened<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; by Andrew Turner late last year. His work is b=
ased on the original<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; port by the UPB team ...<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37428"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37428</a=
><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; I can&#39;t speak to the current state of this=
 work. From what I<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0recall,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; there were several attempts made by UPB to col=
laborate, but they<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; failed to get a response. Perhaps he/they can =
chime in here with<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0more<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; detail.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#39;ll be getting an Ampere system in the next fe=
w weeks and hope to be<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0able to work on the Aarch64 bhyve code.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Rebecca Cran<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br><span class=3D"gmail_signature_pre=
fix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Mario.<br></d=
iv>

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