From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 2 13:56:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from orcrist.mediacity.com (orcrist.mediacity.com [208.138.36.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765BF155D0 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:55:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@orcrist.mediacity.com) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by orcrist.mediacity.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19253; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:54:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:54:54 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Brett Glass Cc: Bill Fumerola , Adam Turoff , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd vs. linux and NT chart Message-ID: <19990302135454.D18602@orcrist.mediacity.com> References: <4.1.19990302134418.00a12530@localhost> <4.1.19990302132445.040f6d40@localhost> <19990302132052.C18602@orcrist.mediacity.com> <4.1.19990302142419.00adaba0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990302142419.00adaba0@localhost>; from Brett Glass on Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 02:34:07PM -0700 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 02:34:07PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > At 01:20 PM 3/2/99 -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote: > > >Having two floppies is far far better than having > >different floppies for different types of installations (e.g. the > >network install floppies, the cdrom install floppy, the nullmodem > >install floppy (ouch), etc.). > > Actually, having a separate CD-ROM install floppy would be fine, > because it'd be easy to generate it from the CD-ROM if need be. > People doing network installs would generate their floppies from > the Net. But I think that even this just MIGHT be avoidable if > the install kernel were simply streamlined for installation. Two floppies for any situation strikes me as better than one-disk and two-disk separate sets for different situations. Having two floppies also allows more space for things like the new installation system that will be in 4.0. I haven't seen the system, but from its list of features, it seems like trying to cram that along with a generic kernel and associated tools onto one floppy would be very difficult. > >The goal is not to leapfrog Linux or any other operating system. > > The goal is always to improve the system's usability. And in this > case, it's a very worthy goal to leapfrog Linux as well. The > BSDs have been unfairly maligned by the Linux "faithful" and > need a boost. Does it matter if they malign FreeBSD? Let them! The clueful will do as they always do and use the product that they find best. The clueless will plant their feet and refuse to consider alternatives, instead choosing to malign and spread disinformation about everything except their chosen product. > >The goal is to provide the best possible OS. > > The best possible OS would install from one floppy at most. You didn't read a word I wrote, did you? I said specifically, "This sometimes means making compromises in certain areas in exchange for superior overall quality." We've compromised on the single-floppy install in exchange for superior quality of installation, and therefore, superior quality overall. A second floppy is not that big a compromise. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter The best way to accelerate Windows mailto:gsutter@pobox.com is at 9.8 m/s^2. http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message