From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 08:18:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481E3F2DC3 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mafsys1234@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x435.google.com (mail-pf1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Svtk3mRPz4Zgq for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mafsys1234@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x435.google.com with SMTP id x127so13182295pfb.7 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 01:18:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eU3YlF1WVzYyylnS/5wrbz0wYN1mwlbUE2Zeg4BwfX4=; b=eEeyOh9daXtokQto+q2VxM0EgKHi7XA8Gi/CLnfCV3xRdXMUwF36hM6Uj7y/NVszEQ dcfjEJ02tOohKJ54dnfWU3mZi9kKPYuIBkWpiYqmyJUkoGaV+Pg06rBFZP8yDChfqkqc NvaFYkhVdOe1GALefKmnl6wMGIQl+aWEHu0cPRLjwwWCo1S1NGTNL+m+oBxycUcE7MNI eWUqRhXAGYuhAz2xLQ7W3FV6f2vCWarEcAYGVTY05cYKEXTKNV1EqVKGYC0N6H3G0nIB nP7cpx9/J1W8VCdfgdJiYj8RHR2LazOSlbRQ6w5+WCVDWYiSounbI2lHych9Tc108Bbr kAkQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eU3YlF1WVzYyylnS/5wrbz0wYN1mwlbUE2Zeg4BwfX4=; b=TOJSb9LA/DE3sRZ375OS9NEG0KkBRsI1227mRDQlRcleOWEEDr5LyXzzMTt2bpzqcr K7M5ajG8FiEBLuwxLCt2HXxsLe5+Z8BMRUBSk8LqqBnq+6iU5ZYXpO/DmVe9J7hwFZOU /s46Kynv2KSLZNBS8fde5D/AkeQth143Pb6uff0CMEoiEyWplOCj0DpbAD8Ovo10Upo8 mZ5qcLsTQnS47OeaQs8BTn1ageFSBq++0xpAHu7kdaYsqjgKfdtbKA18/nMDLOYpFE1K jVVuUltJSdpgqOt0vQSc6pOC6fAstlqrupqrLUDGxdOWU1Al6fRz+wVHJPSZOVtn7NG/ U1Cw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWiYFTEa0UJKZtyPucIMXp08/smBIDioEgl1vyN24IduM7zs2ro XvbbTsLHQ0xUTS204Ge0WGkPaiDh X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzbwXJfSUrhsYdWhCA2EA/5rP29o9gp8IWuwxIoBfohlHnbuLeAtsxkkxrizgD2DvNgW32mCA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:a4ca:: with SMTP id l10mr4163389pjw.17.1568189931968; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 01:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (C-210-10-137-254.can.connect.net.au. 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> From: MJ Message-ID: <10971217-3072-cfee-785d-3748e9879a2f@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:18:27 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Svtk3mRPz4Zgq X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=eEeyOh9d; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::435 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[254.137.10.210.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.18), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.73), asn: 15169(-2.26), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:18:55 -0000 On 11/09/2019 12:14 pm, Polytropon wrote:[snip] > It's like how tools like dig and bind disappeared from the base system. > They are now in ports and can be installed optionally. However, if a > documentation file is still part of the OS, and installed along with > the tools comprising the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also > be part of the OS. Or at least a placeholder, which could be a script > that simply echo "This tool is no longer part of FreeBSD, please install > this or that.", exit 0. :-) Yes, it's rather like omitting man and still providing man pages. Having said that I haven't looked at info files for years.