From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Jan 25 00:03:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E6A14C3BDA for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10768E0AF for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B3E3F14C3BD9; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A243D14C3BD8 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 220E28E0AE for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id x0P03IaX085515; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 16:03:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id x0P03ImG085514; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 16:03:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201901250003.x0P03ImG085514@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: timed restoral until deleter makes a port In-Reply-To: To: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 16:03:18 -0800 (PST) CC: "Julian H. Stacey" , FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 220E28E0AE X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:03:26 -0000 > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 4:13 PM Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Current box here is now about 10 seconds ahead, since timed was deleted, > > still waiting for the code vandal who removed timed from src/ > > without proper discussion in advance, to move timed from src/ to ports/ > > > > timed absence will bite more people when 13 is released. timed > > should be restored to src/ until the code vandal is forced to write > > a ports/ entry. Temporary removal of the src/ commit bit could encourage > > this & admonish irresponsible conduct. > > > > The tech issues have been discussed before, no need to repeat, > > this is just a question of enforcing responsible procedure. > > > > The ball is in my court to approve a pull request so we can finish the > port. We have plenty of time before 13 and current, is after all, current. > So there's no need to do anything rash here. > > I think all the rest of this is without merit and an overreaction. Lets prevent this in the future and make it formal policy that if the solution to a removal from src is that a port be created the order must be port created and working, then src de-orbit. Agreeable? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org