From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 12 12:30:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385B7372 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars.engels@0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031A9386 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 0x20.net (0x20.net [217.69.76.212]) (Authenticated sender: lala) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 07AC16A6001 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:30:29 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:30:28 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Subject: Re: GSOC 2013 project " Kernel Size Reduction for Embedded System " In-Reply-To: <516568CD.80104@feral.com> References: <516568CD.80104@feral.com> Message-ID: <86c97844c3a21dce5922552694c3eeb5@mail.0x20.net> X-Sender: lars.engels@0x20.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.7 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:43:27 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:30:30 -0000 Am 10.04.2013 15:27, schrieb Matthew Jacob: > On 4/9/2013 11:53 PM, Daniel Braniss wrote: >> this host can run x11 apps! so 'Huge' is a relative matter, my first >> PDP11/45 has 64K :-) danny > Bah. Real old farts ran munix on a 32k PDP 11/03- shell and apps in > the low 16k and the kernel in the upper. Or was it the other way > around? At Tektronix, a PDP 11/70 supported 64 users runing vi and > compiling simultaneously, although starting a link job meant going out > for coffee. > > As a point of comparison with huge and speed: in 1987 my Sun 3/50 > with a 15MHz 68020 and 4MB of memory could open the mailtool and I > could be reading email within a second. > > My current desktop with 8GB of memory and running 8 cores @ 2.2GHz > and Thunderbird running almost entirely memory before being > un-iconified still takes a couple of seconds to be usable. That's why I use mutt. :-)