From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 00:38:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C76816A4CE for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:38:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ritamari.vonostingroup.com (ip193-230.digitalrealm.net [216.144.193.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15F543D45 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:38:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: from pcp01939978pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net ([68.32.91.145]) by ritamari.vonostingroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CmLgT-000LXo-UG; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:39:26 -0500 Message-ID: <41DC8894.1030004@vonostingroup.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:38:44 -0500 From: "Frank J. Laszlo" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tm4528@aol.com References: <190.36a29286.2f0dcb2d@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <190.36a29286.2f0dcb2d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ritamari.vonostingroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - vonostingroup.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: joshua.lokken@gmail.com Subject: Re: Supermicro Hardware and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 00:38:28 -0000 Tm4528@aol.com wrote: >------------------ > >Your point might have some teeth if the "newer" version were better, but >the entire problem is that 5.x is much worse than 4.x, so there lies the >issue. 4.10 is NOT supposed to be an "old" version. Its the production >version. Because its readily admitted that 5.x is not yet ready for >prime time by those in the know. And its not properly suppored. > > > Thats strange, http://www.freebsd.org says 5.3 is the Production release and 4.10 is the (legacy) production release I guess they just dont teach you words like "legacy" in troll school. >The truth is that you are in awe of a "team" that has done a terrible job >of transitioning to a new version, who can't get the new version to perform >at close to the levels of the previous version after several years, and who >have time and time again failed to meet their promised performance targets. >They force their customer base to use the slothy thing, because modern >motherboards and comm cards dont work in 4.x. And you stand and cheer >them. Like a bunch of blind men cheering the one-eyed fool. > > If they've done such a bad job, why not contribute something other than useless rants on the lists? And what customer base? I dont think the FreeBSD Foundation is trying to "sell" their product. and who says all modern/new cards are supported in 4.x, I've used several new devices on 4.x without problems. Why dont you just install windows and be happy with your OS that "just works". Regards, Frank Laszlo