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Date:      Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:00:47 +0200
From:      Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org>
To:        Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why top-posting is bad
Message-ID:  <20040827150047.41f3498b.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org>
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:10:38 +0530
Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr> wrote:

Hi,

> > This is a marginally valid point.  The trouble is that most people
> > are only semi-literate when it comes to mail.  They don't
> > *understand* that it's a good idea to limit the size of the messages
> > that people send.  They usually also don't care, because it's so
> > difficult with the tools at their disposal, and they don't believe
> > that there are easier ways to do it.

Just because most people don't want to bother learning netiquette
doesn't make it less annoying. You know, when in Rome...

It's the same with unpatched Windows boxes. Joe Sixpack doesn't care if
his Windows box is ridden with spyware and viruses but, in the end, is
the rest of us who pay for his carelessness when his PC acts as open
relay for spammers and whatnot.

> > I've made the decision that I should not.   I reformat the messages
> > before replying to them (thus the message
> > 
> >   [Format recovered--see
> >   http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
> > 
> > at the top of such replies and

I'm 100% with Greg here. Nobody's expected to be an expert in
everything, but some people simply don't want to learn.
 
> I get plenty of messages that are top-posted continuously all the way
> for 10 generations.  I see no problem in following the context.  I can

That's fine. I personally find it annoying to get a copy of what I've
written with every e-mail. And it gets worse as the conversation goes
on, with messages getting 150-200KiB big.

> > better.  But sometimes it's worth expressing the fact that people
> > are more likely to get (voluntary) answers if they express
> > themselves well; and that includes the presentation of their text.
> 
> That can be explained politely, rather than saying "Top-posters won't
> be honoured with a reply".

That only works the first 50-100 times you find yourself in such
situation. You'll eventually burn out. It has happened to me recently. A
friend of mine, who recently majored in CS, replied to me top posting 3 or
4 times before it pissed me off enough to send her to a "learn to quote"
text. She's a CS major, she's tech savvy. If she felt offended, so be
it. It's basic stuff she should be aware of.

Cheers,
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	Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org>
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