From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 17 07:17:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C4E106566B; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD378FC0C; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8H7HDkf081802; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:17:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8H7HDe4081801; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:17:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200909170717.n8H7HDe4081801@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, dougb@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4AB17CB9.3040704@FreeBSD.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:17:29 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: 8.0 rc.d scripts less verbose? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, dougb@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:17:30 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > The attached patch adds a knob you can set in rc.conf to see "Starting > foo" messages again. If people find this useful I'll be glad to commit > it. I'm also open to suggestions for a better name. Thanks, this is definitely useful. Actually I think this should be the default. My feeling is that hiding all of the "starting" messages is a regression that needs to be fixed. I cannot think of a good reason why they should be hidden, but there are certainly good reasons to display them. Just my 2 cents as a long-time admin and user. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Perl will consistently give you what you want, unless what you want is consistency." -- Larry Wall