From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 30 04:52:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFE516A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:52:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F03243D3F for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:52:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 690071C000A0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:52:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 466F11C0009E for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:52:14 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050330045214288.466F11C0009E@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:52:14 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1234296489.20050330065214@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1112143621.661.18.camel@orker.orbweavers.co.uk> References: <154613622.20050327112206@wanadoo.fr> <4247420E.1030307@makeworld.com> <405056772.20050328020101@wanadoo.fr> <1965951106.20050329180958@wanadoo.fr> <91674201.20050329230028@wanadoo.fr> <1112143621.661.18.camel@orker.orbweavers.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:52:15 -0000 Martin McCann writes: > then stop complaining to a list of 'kiddies', and use that. MS doesn't support FreeBSD. > If you have never encountered the term FLOSS, you are not the open > source user you claim to be, it is a common term. I've probably encountered it, I just didn't retain it. The IT world is full of acronyms. > And what open source developer does anything but 'doing it at a loss'?. Very few, which is one reason why open source is not a serious competitor to proprietary software in many cases. > Statistics will prove whatever you want it to prove, most people with > intelligence look beyond the given conclusion, and make their own. If you don't look at statistics to draw your conclusions, what do you look at? > Depends on what you want as a desktop - desktop != WIMP. Most people want a GUI on the desktop, and UNIX isn't designed for that. There are fundamental conflicts between the design requirements of a desktop and those of a server. One cannot do both well. > Alternatively, many of the features of windows seem to match those of > already available software. And so on, and so on. GUIs on the desktop predate the Mac and Windows interfaces by many years. > So what defines a secure system, if not the fact it is less prone > breakens? The NCSC criteria are a good start. Windows NT and its successors satisfy more of them than UNIX. -- Anthony