From nobody Wed Oct 16 22:36:30 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTQn85QSVz5Z57x for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTQn739Mgz4HJk; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by kib.kiev.ua (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 49GMaU6r035603; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 01:36:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 49GMaU6r035603 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 49GMaUmg035602; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 01:36:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 01:36:30 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Alan Somers Cc: mscotty@protonmail.ch, freebsd-fs Subject: Re: Should VOP_RENAME fail if tdvp has an IMMUTABLE flag set? Message-ID: References: List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XTQn739Mgz4HJk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 04:11:28PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > ufs_rename and ext2_rename will both fail with EPERM if the > destination directory has an APPEND file flag set. So will > tmpfs_rename. However, tmpfs_rename will also fail if the destination > directory has an IMMUTABLE flag set. That's inconsistent. It seems > to me that tmpfs's behavior is more reasonable. Does anybody know why > ufs and ext2 have always allowed rename even if the destination > directory is IMMUTABLE? For that matter, does anybody know the > rationale for preventing it if the destination is APPEND? > Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would allow > new entries. And I don't see any checks for APPEND in ufs_mkdir, > ufs_link, or ufs_create. For UFS, IMMUTABLE is checked on lookup. Search for 'RENAME' in ufs_lookup.c and following call to VOP_ACCESSX(). APPEND for UFS directories is a strange idea, for instance, does the directory compaction breaks append-only?