From owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Thu Oct 20 16:43:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B414C1A5D7 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcestaff@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E174C19A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcestaff@shaw.ca) Received: from VCMCE110228 ([96.53.207.109]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id xGQzbbaDwFfiXxGR2bfltC; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 10:43:18 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20150330; t=1476981798; bh=OgSS1OVwfGMpt4JKwxn4JAkwZxJ/OvWftEwFiAZCaQ4=; h=From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=H6wN5gRtpHbmh/P7ThCLiqEULtOv0N+07qWeHf2LCGsTaawCkuD/X4z/33zsui6jH DKgWLSAU3P7xt/jmViYZOZomMZjAZ57Y97oUiy+305TxHAmxNjKHsc+e5jB5GqQ3pC JHKJBK+e3n2Okpxyv7yDabuumTdM8KT+6SA8IxHwIubepihYJMQxZrNAagT1R7oTNa RW7eu0VMvEzSOYL5aD9DcgdktSEe1JxUnvpuZzgC31UBEvf3TEg/wFfbJ/FzBn+nBR 3FCFjJZXBxBOAG30Q/GXK2F15Un3gXgm0MXAYmhGOAYwBRLnIwTGO1qUwUas06goEB +aynb8Xmwz9Gg== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=Qb8khYTv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=wUBskxdo7/hGrCCpt51ZWg==:117 a=wUBskxdo7/hGrCCpt51ZWg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=oxtLoEQ2AAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=_79znWNY07yzpikl4SgA:9 a=kysb9YIi8gQi3MLF:21 a=fj_uNES7KX5-C54B:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4o5yfQ92oOGWSoZ-H8Ji:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Message-ID: <2AF3D9C76968458CBBDA02084AF6AA26@VCMCE110228> From: "Shannon @ shaw" To: "Doug Hardie" Cc: References: <4D4F63AFE85D40E5B884B77B09E0D74A@VCMCE110228> <5438b38d53bf0bc58fe0fd78712280ae@deerfieldhosting.com> <7FE5511E15C54718B2BC1E4D2745BC17@VCMCE110228> <9F132F70-ABE5-4D96-8011-05DC90AEE59B@mail.sermon-archive.info> In-Reply-To: <9F132F70-ABE5-4D96-8011-05DC90AEE59B@mail.sermon-archive.info> Subject: Re: 553 errors Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 10:43:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGfm9lhrTK/HzTWrbaBKFwL2zTpDDhJ5oE1H5RKABnwVRz3AAloTwXCH+IyoqmWQJxy46XLdfnVHs/9TP+QD3gcza/1weiaNK1zybkwE2z/MemmLHOXp QESRqJ9ga+dBq7xvKRN54T4GNhMytyCA2+cDEqfSxQ8fKEuCGvy/4Z3h8F5V6C9I2M5UhKw5SBMi5n5ZMXOy+jRss9IK9Eq6lmc= X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:43:25 -0000 Yeah, I know that too. That was kind of my point... You can't just browse through the log files because it's full of those and it'll just put you to sleep. When I parsed maillog for the domain that couldn't send me mail I didn't find any entries. I can grep for "Rejected" and find plenty I can grep for "google" and find plenty I suspect that particular domain uses "gmail for business" (or at least, the particular user has her outgoing server set for a gmail server) and that's what's causing the rejection. - But, it doesn't happen every time. At least not to mailing-list messages from that domain. Only the messages from that particular user (that I know of). I'll figure it out, I just thought someone might know of a particular issue with companies that use google's mail services. Of course, we may be the only three that are still subscribed to this list ;-) Shannon From: Doug Hardie Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 7:09 PM Well, the line you listed below is a block from spamhaus.org. You are using that RBL to block spam and it has received spam from the originating IP address. Its not a misconfiguration unless you didn't want spamhaus blocking. If you want to retain spamhaus blocking then you need to tell the originator to contact the admin's at the originating MTA to have them fix the problem that cause the blockage by spamhaus. > On 19 October 2016, at 17:11, Shannon @ shaw wrote: > > I didn’t really ask for a simple answer... > It’s not so much the understanding, it’s more like laziness. It’s a mail > server I built in 1998 and rebuilt/upgraded in 2006 and it pretty much > just sits there and runs. > I don’t have to look at it a lot. So my skills are not ‘fresh’. > > ----------------------------------- > I was browsing through maillog but there’s so many properly rejected mails > it’s kind of depressing. > such as: > > Oct 19 00:12:56 mail sm-mta[27488]: ruleset=check_relay, > arg1=[101.200.123.160], arg2=127.0.0.4, relay=[101.200.123.160], > reject=550 5.7.1 Rejected: 101.200.123.160 listed at sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org > > > When I grep’d maillog for the problem domain none found – but maybe too > big of a delay between it happening and being reported to me... > > > > > > Thank You!!! > > > > Shannon Wheeler > > > > > From: Dennis > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 2:42 PM > To: Shannon @ shaw > Subject: Re: 553 errors > > Hi, > > Yes, you have a misconfiguration. That you are asking the question means, > with all due respect, that your understanding of how mail servers work is > probably not sufficient for a simple answer. But to give you one anyway, > there is some problem with the MTA (mail transport agent) you are using > being able to verify the recipient address. You should be looking in the > logs produced by your MTA for more details. > > --- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dennis Mathiasen > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > From: Doug > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:17 PM > To: Shannon @ shaw > Subject: Re: 553 errors > > Check your maillog file in /var/log for error messages for that email. > There should be something helpful there. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"