From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sat Aug 20 16:17:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F448BC047D for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22b.google.com (mail-it0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5E3C1A6A for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id n128so49639650ith.1 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 09:17:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Dy/42n6ZEpFBcrEoNKxZ/1ZwMFvS8KP2a8stVxxfxuo=; b=N/0vQOBUm1LVBnpMvNCC0pmiYbj3x2FSARFh1NzWk84vLO9IWe0QrwS+asfTdlMBAy hi/4f7opiqY93NKxNOANEyFmXmy8YMOzfyo7MKEvJ+Q3hn+2MfkwTHUCmv/u15txdabt HP8dn5fGgFzApZ93cfRVYiqxBt7p21zoGsRBfoFw6BtJN+Yp6EfMP04uMj7AViDFvo1F yeMFJDOoVMfa2QGci/jCqPyR2oRS4ny8A2vnzqnS1bpbyLeSzJhhRfA8jvwuLdeva8oj ulmim+Bt1nwBBWNzuhUSJoMELCSDwa5pCXb9/lVg+NgQ6f85r3QMSBGTqwKMJWroBzZw 8cxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Dy/42n6ZEpFBcrEoNKxZ/1ZwMFvS8KP2a8stVxxfxuo=; b=VQQZGm9oYlBVhZLzYvNjJApf4BDaS6wm75K5hKFWDFro1WInVbvLKoRntllKJ3/Jii aKI34JJY7d84PCmkMUaN3/r5pKKMGD0wmoEh/fsI/zgDaxAaXpkWFJYWIhRziwrvYoPI pdYwPSM+Hy5i4TA59nZIGZhWmRVToI4Utdwovml2dkdQ5sd0ugAbFyxFxZ7OtSs3lApP yQoIZSoFKEHNmXeZtFRMfVz7K0GSf/Wb46k3upKsJxvIHdCH79i8j/w+wGKtCF5if0ax b98GsiFB9Pa8R/jxqmStP40fFPLxTJgA21vgE2S3wzy3vHaSHdQhqZGq12Md8eqIpXiF Uakg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouv89UDzqOSqRS4kiL7U1kYO6sOK9FpBQKMgojA72uPQhbT0IJY9MDFJrkkQTEBQzLldagTvKRUzndfw4g== X-Received: by 10.36.17.20 with SMTP id 20mr13014752itf.94.1471709876122; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 09:17:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.36.65.7 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Aug 2016 09:17:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [69.53.245.200] In-Reply-To: <9056382.PA4dZNFpPe@ralph.baldwin.cx> References: <201608192227.u7JMREIo032684@repo.freebsd.org> <9056382.PA4dZNFpPe@ralph.baldwin.cx> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:17:55 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7HXzinL-m4Hh4pe7mo_IR9W__k Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r304506 - in head: . release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware share/man/man4/man4.i386 sys/conf sys/dev/wl sys/i386/conf sys/modules sys/modules/wl targets/pseudo/userland tools/build/mk to... To: John Baldwin Cc: src-committers , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:17:57 -0000 On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:33 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > On Friday, August 19, 2016 06:38:01 PM Warner Losh wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:27 PM, John Baldwin wrote: >> > Author: jhb >> > Date: Fri Aug 19 22:27:14 2016 >> > New Revision: 304506 >> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/304506 >> > >> > Log: >> > Remove the wl(4) driver and wlconfig(8) utility. >> > >> > The wl(4) driver supports pre-802.11 PCCard wireless adapters that >> > are slower than 802.11b. They do not work with any of the 802.11 >> > framework and the driver hasn't been reported to actually work in a >> > long time. >> >> s/PC Card/ISA/g >> >> There never were any PC Card wl cards. These cards were ISA only >> and ran at up to 1Mbps. > > Wow, even worse than I thought. In the days of 144kbps ISDN lines being the best you could get many places, 1Mbps was awesome. I had one for a 7 mile link to a friend's house in town who had better connectivity. Cards supported by the awi driver were 2Mbps and were the first 802.11 cards. wi blew that away with 10Mbps and a variety of suppliers... wl lost its relevance in 2000 or so. wi was committed in 1999 for hardware that had been around a couple of years in various forms. There was a fast adaptation of it. I moved from my wl-based system to wi-based in 2000 or so once I was able to get a ISA to PC Card adapter and the right connectors to go from the funky tiny connectors on the WaveLan cards to the N connectors that the rest of the gear was setup with. Heck, wi hasn't been all that relevant since ath went into the tree with the boatload of features it supported and way better features... And that's been since 2003 or 2004 or so. Warner