From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 22 23:53:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28503 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:53:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28476 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:53:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from chalmers.com.au (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00571; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:50:51 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <36A98361.3451BC45@chalmers.com.au> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:08:01 +1000 From: Robert Chalmers Reply-To: robert@chalmers.com.au Organization: chalmers.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: zh-CN,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: Andrew MacIntyre , W Gerald Hicks , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A tricky PPP + Routing question References: <36A82271.9EE4071E@chalmers.com.au> <19990123170333.B36690@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 23 January 1999 at 9:45:38 +1100, Andrew MacIntyre wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Robert Chalmers wrote: > > > >> I have a C class network. 203.1.96.0 to 255. All valid. > >> > >> Their addresses are: > >> Their end. 139.130.78.1 > >> My end: 139.130.78.12 > Hi Greg, I know. I went to this movie before. - with telstra. This time, I dug in, and a nice chap at their end rejigged the setup, so my IPs run at my end, and their IPs run on their end. Now all I have to do is stop my existing (tpgi) service and stop it from broadcasting the rout, so I can actually use the telstra link. Now, the telstra chap did tell me, that when I go 64k ISDN, they will INSIST that the router has one of thier addresses at my end, and I have to route my ethernet address to that link address. The reasoning being that if they need to check the status of the link, they can easily (????) ping one of their numbers, it being at my end of the link, and that gives them an assurance that at least the link is up. It sounds like nonsense to me - all I have to do is turn off the router and that method goes out the window. > Well, the real answer is that somebody should explain to your carrier > that this is a lot of nonsense. There are a number of Telstra > customers who are pissed off with this requirement, myself included. > Sure, you can set the routing as Andrew suggests, and it'll work, but > what's the name of your machine? nanguo.chalmers.com.au? Or > robert9.lnk.telstra.net? You can certainly get them to change the > name of the link (if they get silly, point to 139.130.136.133), but > you end up with all sorts of problems: some (broken, but paranoid) ftp > servers will refuse you access (try ftp.guug.de, for example), your > mail will go out with suggestions in the headers ``may be forged'', > you may end up with hanging NFS mounts, and other things that I > haven't thought of. yup, been there done that. So when I get the ISDN dollars .... the arguements will start again I'm sure. I mean if nothing else, it's very wasteful of their IP allocation!!!!. Why use two addresses, when you can use one! Certainly, if i have a standalone PC or somesuch that I want on a permanent link, I suppose it doesnt matter. I use one of their numbers. But not with my own c class. > > The correct answer is that your end of the PPP link should have an > address in your IP domain. I'm glad there is someone in the world who doesn't think I'm nuts. :-) > > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key -- http://www.chalmers.com.au. Publications From China in 24 different languages. English, French, German, Russian, Arabic, Spanish, Chinese, Burmese, Bengali, Hindi, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Persian, Swahili, Sinhalese, Thai, Tamil, Urdu, Vietnamese. China Books for CIBTC, Beijing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message