From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 01:32:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1AA16A41F; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 01:32:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99F443D45; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 01:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20050901013229.BJCB24491.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:32:29 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:28:24 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200508251303.59453.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <43160D67.6040605@ebs.gr> <200508311501.07026.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200508311501.07026.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200508311828.25624.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon , Herve Quiroz Subject: Re: How should eclipse be organized in the ports tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:32:30 -0000 On Wednesday 31 August 2005 15:01, the author Vizion contributed to the dialogue on- Re: How should eclipse be organized in the ports tree?: Additional comment >On Wednesday 31 August 2005 13:04, the author Panagiotis Astithas > contributed to the dialogue on- >>> We could do that but the amount of work needed going that route is far >>> greater than the work involved in developing a generic eclipse loader by >>> adding additonal plugin feature to eclipse's own loader... think about >>> it. >> >>Now, this seems a bit different from the above. You seem to suggest that >>we shall modify eclipse's internals to load plugins in our own >>particular way and that this will be easier than traditional porting >>work. > >It is not so much modifying eclipse internals as writing a plugin that > extends the functionality of existing plugins. > >>Do you have any proof for that? Have you got any WIP code to >>discuss? >>Do you even know which classes in eclipse should be modified? >>Or is this just a "it sounds like a good idea"? > >It is more than "it soundslike a good idea but not as far as WIP (Ill > explain why). >The "How to write an Eclipse installerin the eclipse help" is as far as I > have gone in researching a start point. >On the face of it the concept appears to be do-able. (I am wondering about >whether *collect.jar files could be used to update an available eclipse >plugins database on the local computer to be used by the freebsdloader > plugin to create a li9nk to the standard eclipse install mechanism. > >I think it is eminently doable by building on eclipse's existing assets, but >if the collect.jarfiles were not in a single directory we would not be able >the files to comply with eclipse system requirements for update sites - and >we could not use those assets!. > >So I suppose I have started from the premise if there is no hope in getting >the *collect.jar in a single directory then the concept is a non-starter >unless we were willing to undertake an awful lot of work. What I see here is the potential to have all the local installation processes contained in a standard eclipsepluginloader. This approach can cut out a lot of the work needed to bring plugins into the freebsd port tree. It is also means that each *collect.jar could include an xml file which could be used to define properties for its plugin. > >>>>Panagiotis >> >>Panagiotis -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit.