From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 13:07:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E36837B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntli.com (pc1-glfd2-4-cust59.glfd.cable.ntl.com [81.99.187.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324DC43F93 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:07:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from aqua.lan.palfreman.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ntli.com (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h38KEWuG049614; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:14:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from localhost (william@localhost)h38KEV09049611; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:14:32 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: aqua.lan.palfreman.com: william owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:14:30 +0100 (BST) From: William Palfreman To: Johnson David In-Reply-To: <200304081148.36134.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Message-ID: <20030408205904.W40826@ndhn.yna.cnyserzna.pbz> References: <20030406172035.GA45332@netpublishing.com> <98he98nbau.e98@localhost.localdomain> <200304081148.36134.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brilliant and very useful for FreeBSD, IMHO X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 20:07:46 -0000 On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Johnson David wrote: > But when I hear stories of Lindow defaulting to a password-less root > login, I don't think that's the way we want to go. FreeBSD does that. In fact, as I understand it, it is traditional for any new UNIX installation to default to a passwordless root login. The base systems get you to there, then you install your nicer shells, some user accounts, lynx-ssl and ln -s /usr/bin/vi /usr/local/bin/vim. At some point before the machine gets real users you set a root password. I only see that as a problem if the machine is incompetently administrated. FWIW, I don't care what extra junk gets loaded into the installer, as long as I can continue to do an impatient minimal install, reboot and tidy up with sysinstall afterwards. Bill. -- W. Palfreman. I'm looking for a job. Read my CV at: Tel: 0771 355 0354 www.palfreman.com/william/cv-wfp2.html