From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 17:46:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A6616A403; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu) Received: from marvin.harmless.hu (marvin.harmless.hu [195.56.55.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8F413C468; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu) Received: from localhost (marvin-mail [192.168.0.2]) by marvin.harmless.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847F27C0C4B; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.4.2 (20060627) (Debian) at harmless.hu Received: from marvin.harmless.hu ([192.168.0.2]) by localhost (marvin.harmless.hu [192.168.0.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cz8vX9BkQscK; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from marvin.harmless.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.harmless.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1CE7C0C44; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:46:07 +0200 From: Gergely CZUCZY To: Eric Anderson Message-ID: <20070410174607.GA26432@harmless.hu> References: <461A5EC6.8010000@freebsd.org> <20070409154407.GA88621@harmless.hu> <20070410111957.GA85578@garage.freebsd.pl> <461B75B2.40201@fer.hr> <20070410114115.GB85578@garage.freebsd.pl> <20070410161445.GA18858@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <20070410162129.GI85578@garage.freebsd.pl> <20070410172604.GA21036@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <461BCC85.2080900@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=x-unknown; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <461BCC85.2080900@freebsd.org> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: volume management X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:46:10 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:42:29PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>It will be > >>great to just fix everything in the kernel to handle errors properly, > >>but good luck with that. > >That's a worthy goal and something we should be pursuing. After all, > >FreeBSD used to be noted for its stability. I wouldn't call panics a si= gn > >of stability.. You're better off invalidating all the geom consumers and > >leaving the rest of the system up so an admin can try to recover critical > >data, or so the remaining geom providers can continue to function. >=20 > There's been talk in the past about making the mount read-only instead of= a panic in some=20 > situations, but I know nothing more than that. I quite like this idea, but what about updates? I don't know whether updates require additional space for UFS2 or not, but I can imagine the opportunity when updates can be done while there is no more space for allocating new blocks. Bye, Gergely Czuczy mailto: gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu --=20 Weenies test. Geniuses solve problems that arise. --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) owFNVM+LHEUYXZN4aVDIxYsg322RTE9mejabzchu3GSzyxJ/BDIi4kFqur+eLqe6 qq0fM+kFL55yEJSchBzMIeQmmJCD99wUxf/AQ0BPgjcvCr7q2VFvXVVfvfe+972u L186u3Hm/E/fPv3wwuf37r/wzbln0wt18F7P0lrYhdTpcDAYptn21ihLt9PRztZO Nrp0eTTczkdXiuzw1R8/um60Z+3TSdvwmDzf8RcbJaR+g/JKWMd+N/gy3UnWdQfS NcZJL40ek9RKav73bGKFdiXb9IbOTSH1bEyfBOO5SBsrtRdTxUnyrqZJ4B7tN5aG gx5lg8FlEp6G2XgrG2dXbr1N6eDSACc3rMxpXxdsndG0tEAaJ3u0t3fsaSmVoil3 y5ll3PeGPg7OUynvEC/Ytr6CAkgkXzHN2WpWsagSulBMbK2xjhprGraq7XVI0+Bp ZkxBKuRzcPgKl4Xvx8MJPjYdCVoa66sWdUIRsMiZmldcSyZXmaAKKKMmWBew2yfa Lz1bEkp1LIeW+drtAwqOiygItTqaRKWxJL0jB6ekkr7F1WPQAVBvesoBQI3QMo8q nNxNZjrimfJ/N3DlAxM2LQPWR1ZTlvBgIZQshI8iI0p0ZMamptxoF2oYHDuJYIrF IlbFCsuwE+jx27XOc02hQbuoJVHUcDbHl7dt7MJybuA65RbZgNQIBkbRI3SFOyvA GsmK8B05vF/ION0OB1KgL3AEK4POY8Jg/G42ANSkYstwf8oMRqHm67k2AhrF1GBw tZivldcmaA86UaRGqxbFUC8KNLObwLvOxIgQR7ciQKKDiJSuRzEFxzTXZhkH0022 NnAUUdCneThGsKVnUnIe96UjNCJWV5eoOJUUGljA7irgChNnGEGTZYW8wKrTU+gE GPBFUXT/FXLlGpFzF4j3Dm9n0UIo6eBBHd2StZjh1+u6NU2DSAaN+YMcBq2BYyHS BWrGgcTfF3mZIFebVU//ESEXJl9FRPOSpljNXT9JrrXcS5IjtjOGk9dPQn7SJpij 8maMOXbb/bzbfhMvRq3YuX4VkiRNo7XvY2ISWqDH9+kIC+QeGTdqwTEBeBNq17lK wkrH/eTu1bMvbsSnaf2unT9zdG7jwWe3fv7z9d/+fvrDzV9+/eOvLw7SZ09e2fj6 nZP23oNPH7782u+Pnr/1+Pn3i6++m/4D =E0Kj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ--