From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 15:17:22 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2F910AE986 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1783273C2F for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id C1D113C475F; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:17:20 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Message-ID: <20181004151720.GC74146@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <20181004150720.GA4942@ymer.vnode.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GPJrCs/72TxItFYR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181004150720.GA4942@ymer.vnode.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 15:17:22 -0000 --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 05:07:20PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 09:05:16PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote: > > The criteria for exception are: > > - Popular in applications where it is likely to be deployed beyond the > > support lifetime of FreeBSD 12 (late 2023). > > - 5 reports of uses in the wild on machines running FreeBSD 12 will = be > > deemed satisfy the "popular" > > requirement. >=20 > Why doesn't reports of uses on machines running FreeBSD 10/11 count? I do= n't > get it. 12.0 isn't even out yet, and most of our users are probably not > running CURRENT. As I wrote in an earlier email, I have lots of these car= ds > running in production - and most of them are on FreeBSD 11. They'll > likely be upgraded to 12.1 in the future (but probably not 12.0 - I usual= ly > skip .0 releases). But doing the jump to CURRENT/12 now is just out of the > question - these are production systems after all. For the current poll, good faith intent to upgrade is fine. -- Brooks --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbti7/AAoJEKzQXbSebgfAijUIAIL7gvvts+nZmtxeGGdseIaH aPY/i7Ca8TElu63WskyWJwGZy1nvXzeko59F0415P6rXlxQYB4TQi6vVaSh8y/Sd PnRkBR8DwJEoeBHws0YLSGwTBMDVtmQNuwf2K2EnYs0usjekhyA1y5aWw9h9KgVS +9f2lEUrJcY5ksvVk5y296YzIuwCSFsG0gByPat1C50MuqoJvhB7Tw8MDTqNOBs9 VZxKFY+sKnjbGiOC/w/LXRy4eFz1QNQr/+yEgkB5CiqcFgmPymPa6jljYoaWOtio sPaBeoBXjO+oGPxccdoHl60l5XFO2bbY8nCMcvPi/uC9N99Ewg1JuVIwizhmxkE= =/Ixx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR--