From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 17:34:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02645108FF1E for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58E3D804F7; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w7MHYdj2089123 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:34:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua w7MHYdj2089123 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w7MHYdPV089122; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:34:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:34:39 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Matthew Macy Cc: sebastian.huber@embedded-brains.de, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: epoch(9) background information? Message-ID: <20180822173439.GA2340@kib.kiev.ua> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:34:57 -0000 On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:44:19PM -0700, Matthew Macy wrote: > EPOCH_LOCKED is something that one would only want to use in a fairly > narrow set of circumstances. The only place it's being discussed currently > is in pmap: > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D15983 > > There it would conceivably replace a global mutex that currently serializes > all munmap operations. I have a scetchy design which keeps the current approach of waiting for delayed invalidation in the pmap_remove_all()/pmap_remove_write(), simultaneosly eliminating the global_invl_mtx mutex at all. There was some discussion about epoch vs. fine-graining of the existing DI code, relative to the moving the sleep time to pagedaemon threads. I did not have time to work it out (yet) due to personal issues.