From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Jun 1 14:53:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC02BEFB0ED for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from mx0.gid.co.uk (mx0.gid.co.uk [194.32.164.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3663F80020 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.27] ([194.32.164.27]) by mx0.gid.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id w51ErbIr074463; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 15:53:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: PRs are being closed for bogus reasons :-( From: rb@gid.co.uk In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 15:53:36 +0100 Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Dieter BSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1407.1527801278@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Warner Losh X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 14:53:40 -0000 > On 1 Jun 2018, at 15:41, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Bob Bishop wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> > On 31 May 2018, at 22:14, Poul-Henning Kamp = wrote: >> >=20 >> > -------- >> > In message = = >> > , Warner Losh writes: >> >=20 >> >> There's a problem with the PR database: there's too many bugs. >> >=20 >> > And despite the valiant efforts of a number of people over the >> > lifetime of the project, it has always had so many bugs that >> > everybody just threw their hands in the air and walked away. >> >=20 >> > The way to improve the situation is to fix PR's, not to complain >> > about PRs. >>=20 >> Indeed. But look at the number of PRs with patches that are stuck in = that state. Not pretty. >=20 > Over the years I've committed dozens of PRs that had patches in them. = The sad truth is that only about 10-15% of them have comitable patches = in them when submitted. And that number decays over time as things age = in bugzilla. [etc] Sure. But the best a non-comitter can do is to supply a patch tested = against HEAD. If the patch rots because it hasn=E2=80=99t been committed = six months down the line it=E2=80=99s not my fault. -- Bob Bishop rb@gid.co.uk