From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG  Thu Sep 18 16:34:34 2014
Return-Path: <owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Received: from mandree.no-ip.org (freefall.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87])
 (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
 (No client certificate requested)
 by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 392AC2D7;
 Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:34:34 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost6.localdomain6 [IPv6:::1])
 by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C7623CEBA;
 Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:15:48 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <541AF723.1000507@FreeBSD.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:15:47 +0200
From: Matthias Andree <mandree@FreeBSD.org>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;
 rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: marino@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>, 
 Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org>,
 ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, 
 svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: svn commit: r367783 - head
References: <201409092112.s89LCtUa094817@svn.freebsd.org>
 <540F6E85.2050105@marino.st> <540F70A7.6030904@FreeBSD.org>
 <540F74AB.3020605@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <540F74AB.3020605@marino.st>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1
Precedence: list
List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head
 <svn-ports-head.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/svn-ports-head>,
 <mailto:svn-ports-head-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-ports-head/>
List-Post: <mailto:svn-ports-head@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:svn-ports-head-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-ports-head>,
 <mailto:svn-ports-head-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:34:34 -0000

Am 09.09.2014 um 23:44 schrieb John Marino:
> On 9/9/2014 23:27, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>> On 9/9/2014 4:17 PM, John Marino wrote:
>> I understand your reaction, but it's just the longstanding convention. I
>> find it a bit rude too, but it speaks to the quality we expect of each
>> other. Had this all not been fixed quickly we would not have packages
>> this week.
> 
> The pointy hat was on the MOVED entry although I guess I deserve one for
> removing the port in the first place.
> 
> The convention is not cool.  I say it's time to retire this tradition.
> If one really wants to make a point, send a private email.  Have some
> class, this is just rubbing a mistake in somebody's face.  This does not
> make somebody's work better since they'll know about the error when they
> see the commit.

I'd cast a ballot with the same mark as John's here.

Sometimes I'm lazy and mingle some things in one message with a broader
distribution list, but guilt assignments don't get us anywhere.

What we COULD do is add a

Regression: <SVN revision>[, <SVN revision> [...]]

field and let the system look up whose commit caused the regressions and
add them to the Cc: or Bcc: (to be discussed).  That way we clearly get
people on the hook without pointing fingers in public.