From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 9 23:49:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FCF16A41F; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:49:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao05.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao05.coxmail.com [68.99.120.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCCF43D46; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:49:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao05.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20050909234954.NCNS2425.lakecmmtao05.coxmail.com@dns1>; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 19:49:54 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:45:34 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1126292392.11649.5.camel@realtime.exit.com> <20050909222126.2215.qmail@web54010.mail.yahoo.com> <20050909.172816.112623086.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20050909.172816.112623086.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509091645.36177.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: pm940@yahoo.com, frank@exit.com, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: Will USB serial ever be fixed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 23:49:54 -0000 On Friday 09 September 2005 16:28, the author M. Warner Losh contributed to the dialogue on- Re: Will USB serial ever be fixed?: >In message: <20050909222126.2215.qmail@web54010.mail.yahoo.com> > > Paul Marciano writes: >: > Even to the point that it will be hard for you to >: > effect change because people don't take you >: > seriously. >: >: I don't want to effect change, I just want a working >: system. > >If the system isn't working for you, then you're advocating a change. > >: If you're serious about supporting an >: operating system you have to support all your uses, >: even the assholes. > >Since I don't have usb serial hardware that's tickling the problem, >I'm unmotivated to do anything about the problems. And even if I was >motivated, I can't even begin to do anything about the problem without >hardware. And even if I had the hardware, it has to be important to >me. Either for something cool I'm hacking on, or because I get a fist >full of dollars for my efforts. > >You asked for honesty, and I'll give you some more: You are being a >jerk and acting like you are entitled to having your particular >problem fixed without pitching in and helping in some way. This >combination is particularly bad when faced with an open source >project. It will get you nowhere but frustrated when we don't cow-tow >to your demands. > >Have a nice day. Hey Warner come on relax a bit It has been said that the human being is mearly a glorified ice do-nut -- if you carry on giving people a hard time they might forget to concentrate on the attractive stuff you have on top and concentrate on the debris at the bottom david > >Warner >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit.