From nobody Mon Oct 27 18:11:00 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cwM5F31WDz6FFHR for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cwM5F2WRdz44Xg; Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1761588673; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7lYGP/hFMUksbKZ3wjRSpVWE0/zjqAU4a1zlcurwsRE=; b=dZwVc1XBflVs6aD7pNxZnBdG2Ry5NIyancRwOdlHA+M3eltMG76JbCt8nilQFRVUFdb02E rQkZUZ8gYkuCZObq2C+DJR8oznfKAbw5SBiY62D0Dy47BD2txVFEtgSgOkX/DpzBQVEsKw o50MlfSnsQWNNb8lxssbN3p50vR2ncxxGASuVz0AFmRBYcYMHQ3ABQqgX2qvff/G4GIr6N KZZ0CuMWYn5l8TQ82gT1OuJY7r1Ij6DrxMQVW/vqB2tv3Zngk4yxZmMs0upZxjg8vYlAwc TFcKe33GU3kz13G+hQewE4ySawaANjjVwdOl8vV3RmmzOfgagXqmtBSAOhj2WQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1761588673; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7lYGP/hFMUksbKZ3wjRSpVWE0/zjqAU4a1zlcurwsRE=; b=faUf9H0Ine8yaU5vifVPjDPjguzhbgti2MYY1kQk7iz3gS2QP8P5RE7KE6jS1ttbLAsHcV A68+DqO6Chki3jaTt+vLqNtZ84/nqCyAYEhUDSadKmuvQR9I6Liue0Oi6qhFY6xXGplFQE QqJ2Py/AaSWURSlMhw2W4FCwdO34Q7F48BtcPvIPjc8IL7tlTNiJD5gd+wey3Q31M6bppM t5e4q9rkCQgTXHFWgPbXCKJ0ivfgEyO9xXpRWUYsIKIpziKHT/HwvD16zS08cBv2dQuk9J sFHZ+s5ataJSRQ625ak5eRGUM+3oLirAbyGFqfa+XcrOIVRXnZAuftb2cF50bw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1761588673; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Zx4ErlrDBDJDxFeDAavECfE8PH+ZIBXzFTX2AZLgRlSZUbILSokG3yPCZdqh8xTaUZeAIb DcXydKXnza5ASOtSyiX7JeSKYifd+7qqlOTtLox2dw9yxO3ZBTlnN+nxYL+HaUPAT9aAlB M4zvsaKZYyl1j9E05QCyXYSqsEDj06eCOB0BerNkHQCUSr11BIVOdhLigGmW0BTcAtzAeh AtMOZySCh5nyC4eFuS4zL6mmsTcnYdOW3UGPza/1Aq3i01z2B03w5LYFwQtsqZV7UGdqM1 A++a2qM5DkrWhlEFdPJrSTkaEwDOCE66ijUz7sll4wA3yRiqVa5esRA0xREoHg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from hal.tijl.coosemans.org (unknown [IPv6:2a02:a03f:8941:cb00:3dd8:1eb9:2e57:6c22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: tijl) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cwM5D6Ln2zRTL; Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:11:00 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?VMSzbA==?= Coosemans To: A FreeBSD User Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: Re: Inverted mouse wheel since refurbishment of moused? Message-ID: <20251027191100.1bb83480@hal.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <20251019193257.4e608978@thor.sb211.local> References: <20251019193257.4e608978@thor.sb211.local> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 19:33:15 +0200 A FreeBSD User wrote: > A while ago /usr/sbin/moused has seen some refurbishment. Since then in X11 the mousewheel is > inverted. I'm on CURRENT and 15-STABLE. Mouse is right hand. Moving the wheel "away" was > supposed to scroll DOWN towards the last entry (i.e. within an xterm), moving (or rotating, if > you like) the wheel towards me was supposed to scroll UPWARD towards historical entries. Up to > the time of this inversion there was no difference between Microsofts handling of the > mousewheel. Now, switching between M$ Windows and my lab's FBSD installation is a pain, my > limited brains capacity doens't compute the inversion of the axis very fast. Since I do not > use fancy things on how to configure the mouse in Windows I suppose its the standard how I > use the mouse (I use Windows for department's Email, just that), in FreeBSD's X11 I used for > years now either no extra config or > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7". > > First guess was to shuffle "4 5 6 7", but whatever the order of the numbers is, it has no > effect. > > What triggers this inversion and how to restore the "legacy" or, more suitable, the > traditional way? What is the output of 'ps xaww | grep moused' and 'dmesg | grep ms' ?